Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

[calvineyre68]

Hey guys,

I have a Schecter C1 classic with stock pickups. I want to swap the pickups out. I have read the other post about this, but I am going for a different sound than that fellow. I am looking to cover, on one end some Wallflowers/Matchbox 20 clean stuff, and on the other end play Creed/BadCompany/Skynyrd. I know this is a wide range, but what are your thoughts on the pickups that I should get to cover that sound?

I know that different guitars would be ideal, but I am looking to make this my versatile guitar that can do all of what I need. I would greatly appreciate any advice that you guys have. Thank you all very much in advance.

Calvin

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

I wouldn't go for anything too hot, maybe a custom 5 or even a c5/59 hybrid in the bridge and 59 or Jazz in the neck. there will always be a compromise when going from higher output creed tone to vintage output bad co/skynyrd tone. I think those pickups would be a good starting point, it just depends on which "flavour" you'd prefer, an A2 version; custom cusom bridge and alnico pro 2 in the neck might suit your needs better for your taste. I'm an Alnico 5 guy myself

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

That guitar has the JB/Jazz combo, right? How do you like the Jazz neck currently?

I'd be inclined to try a calibrated PAF type set. Maybe Whole Lotta Humbuckers?

 

[calvineyre68]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

Thank you guys very much for replying, I will look into those and keep you updated on what I think or if I decide. I would definitely go for a more classic sound like bad company or skynyrd over creed. If one side suffers, I would rather sacrifice the modern sound. Currently I dont really dislike either pickup, I just want a little more out of them. The Jazz neck pickup is just a little dark and muddy for me. It does jazz stuff fairly well, but You certainly can't strum without some fair amount of muddiness.

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

Jazz neck muddy? Are you sure that's what's in there? My experience with a jazz neck has been the total opposite of muddy

 

[calvineyre68]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

Jake, Thanks again for responding, I don't have much experience verbally describing pickups... I guess muddy may be the wrong word... It sounds mid range heavy? The chords when strummed don't sound clear in the neck position and too bright in the bridge.

So, I just tried the schecter through a nice perfectly clean amp, and I agree with you that the neck pick up is very clear and pristine. However, it does get jumbled when an amp is in overdrive territory. Perhaps what is has stock is the best option. I am just curious if something may be better.

 

[hamerfan]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

I think you should try a complete set up to the pickups. This is decribed several times on this forum. Baseline is to get the neck pickup brighter and slimmer in sound, while to darken the bridge and get more emphasize on the lower strings. This works quite well on most guitars.

 

[MacBradley]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

You're not going to get much less muddiness or mid range out of a neck humbucker other than the Jazz pickup that's already in there. That pickup isn't even really good for dark jazzy tones...its bright and clear.

Have you tried adjusting your pickup heights yet? That can make more of a difference than some pickup swaps. Try that first.

 

[elelpe]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

Hmm, the stock JB - Jazz in that guitar should have covered what you want to play. And Jazz sounds not clear in 24 fretter? Maybe it's not the pickups.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

Can't be the pups. There must be another component giving the dark/midrange/muddiness to the neck. It's not so surprising that the JB bridge sounds bright...many players experience that.

My suggestion...before spending more money on new pups, replace the bridge vol pot with a 250k (to get rid of the bright highs of the JB), and wire the neck pup coils in parallel to reduce the mids and muddiness and add clarity (make sure the neck vol pot is already 500k).

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

It could be that your bridge pickup is so Bright that you are compensating by reducing the treble and boosting the bass on your amp which isn't doing the neck pickup any favours ?

 

[Grenade]

Re: Schecter C1 Classic Pickups... Different Sound.

My C-1+ had the same issues. Set the amp for the neck pickup and the bridge was too bright and sterile. Set it for the bridge and the neck was mud. When I went to swap them I found they were HB-103's, not HB-102's that were supposed to be in there.