Scooped Mid Rhythm Tones: Your opinions

[RG 2570]

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I like just enough mids to give the tone the body it needs for punch and thickness.
I do not like a rhythm tone with mids set higher than say 5 on my amp.
so i voted semi

 

[JfromHouston]

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I switch between the two quite a bit. Whatever I'm in the mood for.

 

[RG 2570]

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I switch between the two quite a bit. Whatever I'm in the mood for.

yeah i am like that some nights my normal mid settings dont sound like enough
and vise versa
:laugh2:

 

[nuntius]

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IMO, scooping is for Ice Cream Shoppes

I can´t stand the thin, fizzy tones used by some metal guitarists. For me, the guitar has to come over like a sledgehammer, not a hummingbird :headbang:

i agree.

i always start my tone from everything at 12 o clock. generally the only knob that i'll move will be the mid control.

for rhythm it will be between 11 and 1 o clock, and leads i like to have it about 7 on the dial to get a nice fat cutting sound

 

[what?]

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of course, it'd be different if i had a four-band EQ, then i could dial in and scoop/boost whichever mids i want, give me more room to flex my tonal possibilities
I'm seriously considering buying one of those MXR 10-band EQs because of this want of mine.... BTW, are those any good?

 

[JB_From_Hell]

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I voted semi-scooped. I don't currently play with a band, so I really only give a sh!t how my guitar sounds alone. I know that when I am with a band, the mid level goes up, but by myself, I like it fairly low. Having said that, I love how mid-heavy guitar tones sound, but I use a cheap practice amp, and it sounds terrible with the mids up.

 

[Hellion]

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I'm not a heavy rocker tho I can play some pretty heavy sounding rock. I generally set my amps something like: bass 2-4, mids 5-7, treble 7-8. Depends on the amp. My 59 Bassman sounds best with the bass on zero! My Super Reverb likes the bass on 3 or 4. But I like my mids...without them the treble sounds to sharp and thin. Lew

I used the same settings on my Fender 75 when I was using it a lot. That amp would cut through the sludgiest onstage mix and I wasn't even pushing it, volume-wise. The 75 also has a boost on each of the tone controls, so I usually pushed that up a notch too! Mids are where the beef is, that's for sure.

 

[some_dude]

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I'm seriously considering buying one of those MXR 10-band EQs because of this want of mine.... BTW, are those any good?

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=9897

 

[Usurper666]

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All mids, all the time. I really like to crank the lower mids, that is really where the dark crunch comes from for me. I can't stand the scooped sound, never could. Even when I was fifteen years old in 1985 and I first heard Metallica's Ride the Lightning album I thought they had horrible tone. I had only been playing for a year and didn't know much about tone but my ears told me from the start that mids are essential. Slayer confirmed that for me soon after when I heard Hell Awaits.

Cheers,

CJ

 

[Tonewizard]

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Here's what you do when you see some NO-METAL clown using his 7 string Ibanez into a scooped Rectum Frier. Walk up onstage, pull out a handy-wipe to remove the Halloween makeup, then grab him by the neck, walk him over to his amp, show him that you're setting his mids back on 6, then pull out a hammer and smash the mid knob right off his trendy truck bumper amp. Then, hit him on the head with the hammer a couple of times, just for being who he is, and return back to the bar for a drink.

I'M TELLING YOU GUYS, IT'S NOT HARD TO PREACH GREAT TONE!

 

[some_dude]

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Here's what you do when you see some NO-METAL clown using his 7 string Ibanez into a scooped Rectum Frier. Walk up onstage, pull out a handy-wipe to remove the Halloween makeup, then grab him by the neck, walk him over to his amp, show him that you're setting his mids back on 6, then pull out a hammer and smash the mid knob right off his trendy truck bumper amp. Then, hit him on the head with the hammer a couple of times, just for being who he is, and return back to the bar for a drink.

I'M TELLING YOU GUYS, IT'S NOT HARD TO PREACH GREAT TONE!

Dude, grow up.

I don't think most of the guys on this forum are nu-metallers, but at least they're not PREACHING INTOLLERANCE WHEN IT COMES TO TONE!


Please feel free to leave comments like you made above on HC, we really don't need the attitude here and your not impressing anyone.

Cheers.

 

[echofinger]

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I thought that was funny as hell, but then again, who am I anyway?

Look, it's time to fess up.

Mid-scooping was a bad idea, concocted by some coked out hair band monkey back in 1981. Somehow, it turned into a fad. Now, 23 years later, it has achieved mythic status.

Don't ever, under any circumstances, scoop your mids. Your guitar IS mid range, might as well reach over and just turn yourself down.

 

[kill your scene]

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Mids are where the balls are at.

I agree! Scooping gets rid of the single most important ingredient to heavy rhythm tone. It's a shame because people love to scoop these days and it makes music sound like garbage (IMHO).

Everyone from Kerry King to Jimmy Page relies on mid-heavy sounds.... whether you play punk or metal or garage rock, you should pay attention to how your settings affect your overall sound. One of the reasons I love Duncans is the fact that they give warmer, more full-bodied mids. Mids are important, at least in my opinion.

I thought it was funny when Ibanez was promoting the Fieldy signature bass and actually used the quote "Take the midrange and turn that $#*+ off!" in their catalog. So, the moral of the story is: scoop if you want to sound like FIELDY!

 

[wasteofo2]

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How about a reverse scoop?
lows: 0
mids: 10
highs: 0

 

[Rich_T]

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i crank mids and bass and roll off a bit of the treble for my heavy ass rhythm sound.

 

[nuntius]

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if you have your mids at zero you may as well mime coz nobodys gonna hear you. :smack:

 

[BornToShred]

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I can´t stand the thin, fizzy tones used by some metal guitarists. For me, the guitar has to come over like a sledgehammer, not a hummingbird :headbang:

:headbang:

 

[D-EJ915]

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If you crank up your mids (like full 12 oclock on the dials on all of them) and then scoop out the mids, it sounds like crap. I generally put the treble and bass at 4 oclock and mid at about 10 oclock

(assuming that you've got knobs like on a Crate)

 

[\m/(00)\m/]

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hah forgot about this thread

MIDS ARE WHERE ITS AT!!

 

[D-EJ915]

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whoa, ooops, this thread IS ancient O_O sorry, lol