"Seymour Duncan Special Van halen pickup 1979"

[Ayrton]

Re: "Seymour Duncan Special Van halen pickup 1979"

Someone I know has a '78 for sale right now...

 

[Jakek5150]

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This question is alittle off topic,when your listening to Van halen 1(first album)do you hear delay or do you hear echo,im not talking about the plate reverb you hear.

Probably hearing the Echoplex, so I'd say echo. If I remember right, he had two of them. One for the subtle effects during the songs, and then the one in the old bomb used only for Eruption.

 

[Ed Hunter]

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Probably hearing the Echoplex, so I'd say echo. If I remember right, he had two of them. One for the subtle effects during the songs, and then the one in the old bomb used only for Eruption.

not that it matters but the univox mounted in the bomb was only used on the very ending of eruption

 

[Jakek5150]

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not that it matters but the univox mounted in the bomb was only used on the very ending of eruption

Yeah, that's it. I love hearing those live versions and he goes insane on that thing.

 

[IanBallard]

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I think the executives in charge of Warner Bros. Music at that time should be locked up (key disposed of) for not having official footage of the '78 tour. That was THE tour that put most of the "guitar gods" of the 70's back in the woodshed.

 

[Ed Hunter]

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I seen that many times and it never gets old!:eyecrazy:
supposedly thats the duncan 78 in that guitar there!:naughty:

 

[MetalManiac]

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I seen that many times and it never gets old!:eyecrazy:
supposedly thats the duncan 78 in that guitar there!:naughty:

The SuperD /MM pickup is accepted by many devout followers of eds VH-1 sound as "the" VH-1 pickup. I beleive the '78 was beyond that someway, and it just nails the Vh-1 sound really quickly and effortlessly in any Marshall-esque rig.

 

[Ed Hunter]

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The SuperD /MM pickup is accepted by many devout followers of eds VH-1 sound as "the" VH-1 pickup. I beleive the '78 was beyond that someway, and it just nails the Vh-1 sound really quickly and effortlessly in any Marshall-esque rig.

which one to you does the super d or the 78?

 

[MetalManiac]

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which one to you does the super d or the 78?

I would say the '78 does, without any problems. Now the DMarz MM/SuperD would get there more directly I'm guessing , with a real Plexi, Jbl/G12m-20 mix speakers, and a saturated variac sound. I know there is something to the JBL/G12M mix, cause thats what I've heard Jim Marshall designed the great 70's/early 80's G12-65 from-the mix of JBL clean and vintage Celestion dirty ( hailed as THE greatest 4x12 speaker ever made, and I concur).Thats another amazing attribute to Ed to have spawned marshalls greatest 4x12 cabinet speaker.
Besides that, the '78 is EVH-1 in a box...using a Marshall JMP in my case.

 

[Ed Hunter]

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I would say the '78 does, without any problems. Now the Duncan MM/SuperD would get there more directly with a real Plexi, Jbl/G12m-20 mix speakers, and a saturated variac sound. I know there is something to the JBL/G12M mix, cause thats what Jim marshall designed the great 70's/early 80's G12-65 from ( hailed as THE greatetst 4x12 speaker ever made, and I concur)
Besides that, the '78 is EVH-1 in a box.

Cool the 78 is about the ONLY pup i havent tried! LOL!
I really am diggin the dimarzio axis pup that is a really great VH pup,it does the old tone in a strat and with a plexi. it has the classic VH eq in it. the resistance is real deceiving in this pup it is a 17K but plays and feels like a PAF:eyecrazy: dont know how dimarzio did that?

 

[MetalManiac]

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Cool the 78 is about the ONLY pup i havent tried! LOL!
I really am diggin the dimarzio axis pup that is a really great VH pup,it does the old tone in a strat and with a plexi. it has the classic VH eq in it. the resistance is real deceiving in this pup it is a 17K but plays and feels like a PAF:eyecrazy: dont know how dimarzio did that?

I added a little to my post;

I would say the '78 does, without any problems. Now the DMarz MM/SuperD would get there more directly I'm guessing , with a real Plexi, Jbl/G12m-20 mix speakers, and a saturated variac sound. I know there is something to the JBL/G12M mix, cause thats what I've heard Jim Marshall designed the great late 70's/early 80's G12-65 from-the mix of JBL clean and vintage Celestion dirty ( hailed as THE greatest 4x12 speaker ever made, and I concur).Thats another amazing attribute to Ed to have spawned Marshalls greatest 4x12 cabinet speaker.
Besides that, the '78 is EVH-1 in a box...using a Marshall JMP in my case.

 

[Ed Hunter]

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Well there are three tones on VH1, the strat, the destroyer and runnin with the devil which many say is not either of those two guitars? maybe it was that LP jr he had on the VH1 photo shoot?

 

[pittbull]

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Since the Duncan 78 is a alnico II magnet pickup also low output does it have the edge-cut to achieve the Van halen 1 sound,I installed a Duncan custom SH-5 and that pickup has the edge-cut-midrange thats on Van halen 1 plus its a ceramic magnet pickup.Its a PAF on steroids.Also there are no low output pickups that I have tried that have the edge-cut aggressiveness to achieve Van halen 1.Give Van halen 1 a good listen.

 

[Ed Hunter]

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Since the Duncan 78 is a alnico II magnet pickup also low output does it have the edge-cut to achieve the Van halen 1 sound,I installed a Duncan custom SH-5 and that pickup has the edge-cut-midrange thats on Van halen 1 plus its a ceramic magnet pickup.Its a PAF on steroids.Also there are no low output pickups that I have tried that have the edge-cut aggressiveness to achieve Van halen 1.Give Van halen 1 a good listen.

Pittbull i cant speak for the 78 but can tell you that i use a PG trembucker which is also alnico II pup and this one has the sizzle and high end cut like a ceramic. as a matter of fact they have VERY similar spec's(78 and PG)
Have you ever actually tried the PG? it is not a typical A2 pup

 

[pittbull]

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No I havent tried a PG.

 

[Ed Hunter]

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No I havent tried a PG.

Sorry to hear that cause if you had your opinion on A2 pups would be different

 

[pittbull]

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For the Van halen 1 sound you need a pickup with all power and clarity that you can get,but still have the punch-edge-cut and have a PAF flavor also.A ceramic magnet is in my opinion also important for Van halen 1.I also believe that a alnico II or V magnets dont have the strengh like a ceramic for the Van halen 1 sound.I have done alot of experimenting with pickups and the ceramic is the way to go for that sound.

 

[Ed Hunter]

Re: "Seymour Duncan Special Van halen pickup 1979"

For the Van halen 1 sound you need a pickup with all power and clarity that you can get,but still have the punch-edge-cut and have a PAF flavor also.A ceramic magnet is in my opinion also important for Van halen 1.I also believe that a alnico II or V magnets dont have the strengh like a ceramic for the Van halen 1 sound.I have done alot of experimenting with pickups and the ceramic is the way to go for that sound.

pretty much and thats why i said earlier to try the custom or just use a DSD but i do love the PG as well works for me :14: