Seymour launches the 59/Custom Hybrid!

Wow. Way to kill a thread about a new product, guys, by *****ing about the naming, the marketing and the intellect of the general guitar playing public. Rather than discussing the pickup itself, you go in to negative mode. Real nice.
 
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ErikH said:
Wow. Way to kill a thread about a new product, guys, by *****ing about the naming, the marketing and the intellect of the general guitar playing public. Rather than discussing the pickup itself, you go in to negative mode. Real nice.
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It's not an official thread, and well done on your own positivity there. :cool2:
 
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ErikH said:
Wow. Way to kill a thread about a new product, guys, by *****ing about the naming, the marketing and the intellect of the general guitar playing public. Rather than discussing the pickup itself, you go in to negative mode. Real nice.
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I am more or less responsbile for kicking off this naming discussion. I wasn't being negative at all.

Hybrid like, Custom tells me nothing except that it is non-standard. To many people that is a turn off. In 2012 Hybrid = save power. Is that what you want in a pickup? And until you know that in SD parlance, "custom" means somewhere between vintage and hot, custom means expensive or MacGuyvered.

I was pointing out that SD as a brand has a huge following, but the general public cannot easily differentiate between many of the poorly named products... unless their marketing strategy is to confuse the public and have them churn through ill-named pickups until they find the right one, but I don't think so
 
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If it had been an official thread by Evan or Frank announcing the new pickup I wouldnt have gone down the naming route at all, I dont really see a problem discussing things like this just now. Gets it out the way for when the official thread is started! :lol:
 
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Jessie's ghost said:
Why? Did Stephen Stills of Buffalo Springfield play a Strat at Monterey? :)
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OK, you're goofing on me now. Come on man, when you think of Monterey what is the first thing to come to mind? At least your avatar keeps my attention
 
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Doesn't matter cause they're not going to go changing names now anyway. New stuff, sure why not, but existing models; not gonna happen. That'll cause more confusion and try to remember the confusion caused by the renaming of the EVH to the '78 Model. If people read the descriptions, then there would be no confusion.

That is all I have to say on that topic.

I'm glad to see they are going down this path but am also curious how it gets around the DiMarzio patent (see Tone Zone).
 
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Varg said:
I'm with AniML. We know what it means, but most people won't and will just stick with the JB because everyone knows what that is.
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Exactly! It's the Jeff Beck signature model. ;)

AniML said:
In the most basic sense a hybrid is a pairing of unlike things, like a poodle and a cocker spaniel. In today's marketing world say the word and most will automatically assume a highly efficient vehicle at the expense of power.

Hybrid of what?

Should be a name that alludes to retro-modern, not to a green planet and energy conservation, unless of course they are marketing this to the hipster-indie crowd
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What are you talking about? It is called the 59/Custom Hybrid. Couldn't be any more ****ing clear. Not only is it a hybrid, but it lists exactly what it is a hybrid of.
 
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ItsaBass said:
What are you talking about? It is called the 59/Custom Hybrid. Couldn't be any more ****ing clear. Not only is it a hybrid, but it lists exactly what it is a hybrid of.
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That is my thoughts exactly, and the skeptics that posted previously should also take into account that the guys who need a better name before they buy are just going to buy a JB anyway, they probably won't even take any other pickups into consideration.

Changing the subject, I end may up buying this one. I don't think I will be able to stand the GAS any longer.
 
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It really doesn't matter what they named it, because someone would still criticize it. The 59/Custom Hybrid is as good a name as any IMO. People who are too lazy to do any research on the different offerings will most likely buy a JB or a Super D and be perfectly happy.
 
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AniML said:
Understandable for you and 10 or 20 other people here who would like to try one and have the same reservations. Are you going to buy a new one for $90 (maybe more?) or one from the trading post for $50?

But pretend you don't come here and you go to your local GC to buy a new pickup for blues and classic rock and they have the Jazz, JB, Screamin Demon, Custom, Custom 5, Custom Custom and Hybrid. 59 is out of stock (one of the few properly named HBs along with the Pearly Gates IMO) Which are you going to buy?



Oh and as a total aside, I didn't particularly care for the hybrid. I don't particularly care for the 59 or custom line either. I found the 59 too dull (maybe a lemon?) and the customs too compressed. But I absolutely love the PG and Demon. I am eventually going to pair these up in a hybrid, just looking for a cheapo PG
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i dont buy used pups that much. i am glad they came out with this. i think the name is fine. people are too picky and *****y anymore
 
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I really didn't think I'd see an experiment done by a Forum brother making it as a production p'up.

If you wanna make an old man cry, make the Custom 8 a production model too!

My best wishes on this new endeavor, from the bottom of my heart.

Yours very truly,
 
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AniML said:
Cool but... another SD pickup with an unfortunately confusing name. Sure those of us here know what a C/59 hybrid is but > 90% of guitarists don't. Naming is / has been a weakness of SD. Most notably the Jazz and Screamin Demon come to mind, along with the JB/Jazz set as the "Hot rodded humbucker".
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I think the flyer:

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sums it up nicely.

I do agree about the Screamin' Demon though. It conjures up the image of a high output metal machine, when it's actually a weakling.
 
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AniML said:
I am more or less responsbile for kicking off this naming discussion. I wasn't being negative at all.

Hybrid like, Custom tells me nothing except that it is non-standard. To many people that is a turn off. In 2012 Hybrid = save power. Is that what you want in a pickup? And until you know that in SD parlance, "custom" means somewhere between vintage and hot, custom means expensive or MacGuyvered.

I was pointing out that SD as a brand has a huge following, but the general public cannot easily differentiate between many of the poorly named products... unless their marketing strategy is to confuse the public and have them churn through ill-named pickups until they find the right one, but I don't think so
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It doesn't matter what they call it; people will be people. Even if it's called the 11k A5 with mismatched coils, they won't understand what it means, unless they actually WANT to know. I, for one, will gladly try one of these. I'm not much into pulling perfectly good pups apart, either, so this is likely the only way I'll get one.

Dimarzio's no better when it comes to naming. Yeah, back in the day, maybe, but now...WTF is a Norton? WHO TF is that guy? Tone Zone? It should be called the muffle-o-matic. If I didn't read the description, I would never have known that it was to fatten up thin-toned geets.

See what I mean? The 'public' you're talking about is either too old-school or too lazy to get on the intarwebs mashine and read these here specs, no matter what it's called.
 
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I think it's great that Seymour & Co. are issuing it as a production model. Look how many of us here are hesitant to try making a hybrid. The barrier, or "entrance fee" if you will, is much higher than with mag swapping. Now anybody can try this thing, and that's great. When I first noticed the "How to make a hybrid…" stickied thread was seven years old and had been viewed 130,000 times, I knew there had to be a reason.
 
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Ed Hunter said:
wonder IF bachtorock is getting any royalties from duncan for this model?:scratchch
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Maybe if they had called it the "BachToRock Bucker" or "BTR Bucker"! :)

Hopefully some swag is involved... I have a few Strats & Teles in need of some special pickups...
 
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