SH5's in SG's

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As you are a BKP user why not try a Crawler? My experience is a little different but I had a SH5 in my LP for a while, sounded pretty darn good but a little too hot for me. Swapped the ceramic for A5 and it was much better for what I wanted, the A5 warmed it up and took some of that heat out but then got a Crawler (which is an A5) and it's been there a while now with no thoughts of swapping. The sound of the Crawler is very similar to the C5 but with a clearer sound, more note definition. I doubt you would go wrong with a Crawler, SH5,C5 or C8 to be honest.
 
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to me the SH-5 is THE hard rock, 80s kinda metal pickup.
I finally got one and was the tone I had always been looking for.
Unfortunately by then, it wasn't the tone I needed anymore, so I sold it.
I am now trying to fix that by getting another one.


This is similar to what I am looking for. Good crunch factor?
 
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I had a Duncan Distortion in my old SG and it didnt have any harsh high end or terrible icepick. The Stock SH5 should be awesome, especially if the SG in question has a rosewood board.
 
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The Distortion is a very different beast than the Custom. The DD has the large ceramic mag IIRC. That will give smoother highs and greater midrange and a lower resonant peak than the smaller ceramic mag in the SH5.

Ya gotta compare apples to apples.
 
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People are crazy around here with all the mag swap stuff. It really gets tiresome. I don't have any problems with mag swaps in general, but the vast majority around here just can't leave well enough alone. Many times a stock pickup is the right choice.

Have stock magnets taken on some kind of sacred significance? The manufacturer has no idea what guitar/wood/amp you have, or what genres of music you're playing. They're shooting for one-size-fits all. That's not going to please everyone. We know how different a PU can sound in a Strat vs an LP. With about 10 kinds of alnicos available at Addiction, how can anyone dismiss the other 9 as not viable, without even trying any of them? It's seems kind of narrow-minded to assume that stock magents are the best, especially since most PU makers only use one or two kinds of alnico in their entire line. Doesn't DMz use A5's as their only alnico, and Gibson's current production only has A2's and A5's. There's so much more that HB's and P-90's have to offer. Why not be sure that you have the best magnet in your PU? Look at how many used PU's are for sale online; many of them could work for their intended application with the right magnet to move the EQ in the right direction.
 
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I think too many guys get carried away trying to dial in the Custom, now that I'm guilty of it, and have tried every variant of the Custom, including an overwound 15.3K version, as well as C8 and UORC C5.

I'm finding myself coming back to the good ole Custom 5 again and again. The C5 sounds great in an SG or LP. I also like the unoriented roughcast mag Custom 5. The others sorta hit right and left of center too much for my taste.
 
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I think too many guys get carried away trying to dial in the Custom, now that I'm guilty of it, and have tried every variant of the Custom, including an overwound 15.3K version, as well as C8 and UORC C5.

I'm finding myself coming back to the good ole Custom 5 again and again. The C5 sounds great in an SG or LP. I also like the unoriented roughcast mag Custom 5. The others sorta hit right and left of center too much for my taste.

I think a lot of us haven't gone back to the C5, it's good, but a little bright and mid-scooped. With a C8 we don't have those problems, and it's versatile in many guitars for many genres, more than any other version.

Even you like a modded Custom, the UO C5, 'The Blueman Signature Custom', which I think has made the CC pretty much obsolete.

We all have our favorites, and don't have to agree except that the Custom is a great platform for a variety of magnets.
 
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Some great opinions here. A lot of info to take in. I take it the C5 is the SH5? In which case what model is the C8? or is the C for ceramic??

Neck wise, what would be a good match/option for some really nice clean tones? I would also like a coil split since that is my current set up.
 
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Some great opinions here. A lot of info to take in. I take it the C5 is the SH5? In which case what model is the C8? or is the C for ceramic??

Neck wise, what would be a good match/option for some really nice clean tones? I would also like a coil split since that is my current set up.

no the C5 is the sh-14(alnico 5 magnet)
the regular custom is the SH-5(ceramic magnet)
I think duncan should have really named the C5 something other than a name with 5 in it:banghead:LOL!
\for the neck a 59,pg,aphII all work with a custom the jazz is also a great option for the neck with the custom
 
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no the C5 is the sh-14(alnico 5 magnet)
the regular custom is the SH-5(ceramic magnet)
I think duncan should have really named the C5 something other than a name with 5 in it:banghead:LOL!
\for the neck a 59,pg,aphII all work with a custom the jazz is also a great option for the neck with the custom

Ahh I see! That would have been much simpler lol.

Looking for neck pup as well.
 
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Here's my opinion:

1 - Buy the Custom and a bunch of magnets. Then try the different versions of it for a while and decide for yourself which one is the right one for you.

2 - I also think the C5 is better than C8, at least for my tastes.

3 - I agree that the "magnet swap fever" can be a bad thing. At the same time it does a lot of good, discovering new pickups, it can be some kind of addiction and turn into the "any stock pickup is good enough fever". There was a time when people started swapping mags in their custom's for A5, the origin of C5, which was "the best pickup". Then Seymour made the C5 a production model. Now a lot of people hate the C5 and wants the C8 a production model. I bet if Seymour decide to make the C8 a production model, people will ask for the UOC5 and there goes the chain.

Don't get me wrong, I think magnet swap is a great thing and that's the reason I said to try it for yourself and see which one you like most. But maybe, instead of putting a lot of new products in line, Seymour should launch a custom for us to customise. Maybe you get a special pack of the Custom, that comes with different magnets and an easier to remove tape.

Ok, maybe I'm crazy. But I just woke up. Sorry everyone.
=P
 
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There was a time when people started swapping mags in their custom's for A5, the origin of C5, which was "the best pickup". Then Seymour made the C5 a production model. Now a lot of people hate the C5 and wants the C8 a production model. I bet if Seymour decide to make the C8 a production model, people will ask for the UOC5 and there goes the chain.

That's called 'evolution' and it's a good and natural thing. Seymour knows that every PU he introduces isn't going to be in the product line for the next 50 years. Some are hot for a while then cool down. Adapt the product line accordingly. If something isn't what it once was, let go of it and move on. There's no place for sentiment. The public votes thru their purchases; Seymour knows which ones need to be put out to pasture, and we can help by suggesting new ones to take their place.

Guys, product lines are a moving target, you have to keep up with new developments, trends, tastes, and the competition.
 
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Instead of the DC I'd put in the DD. The DD isn't less bright but it adds some punch. At least in my late SG it came out better. IMHO the DC is a pickup that has a hole on the bottom that needs to be filled by a more massive guitar than a SG.
 
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Instead of the DC I'd put in the DD. The DD isn't less bright but it adds some punch. At least in my late SG it came out better. IMHO the DC is a pickup that has a hole on the bottom that needs to be filled by a more massive guitar than a SG.

The DD also sounded awesome in my SG.
 
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