shure sm57 mic

bluesfloyd

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hi guys,
I was told on this site to get a shure sm57 dynamic mic, so I can record my self playing through my amp, they seem to be good mic's for the money etc,
I have tracked one down here in the uk, it is a ( shure sm57 unidirectional dynamic instrument mic ) have I got the right one ????? is there only one type of shure sm57 ????? and the term (unidirectional) what does that do/mean ???????

all the best, bluesfloyd,
 
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The 57 is not unidirectional, it is cardioid. Not the same, though not that different either.
Unidirectional means it picks up sound from only one angle. Cardioid means is has very strong rejection from off axis sounds.

Google microphone polar patterns, that will tell you more.
 
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It's not a unidirectional mic! Its pickup pattern is really no different than the SM-58; it just has a different windscreen and a very slightly different frequency response. For most intents and purposes, the two models are interchangeable...and you can always put an accessory "ball" windscreen on a 57...or unscrew the ball from a 58 (if you are in a "safe" environment to expose the internals).

If you want a more directional mic (which can be a great help in preventing feedback when doing live sound), what you want is the Beta version of the SM-57. FWIW, that's my favorite general-purpose mic. They are well worth the extra money in my opinion.
 
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hi guys,
I was told on this site to get a shure sm57 dynamic mic, so I can record my self playing through my amp, they seem to be good mic's for the money etc,
I have tracked one down here in the uk, it is a ( shure sm57 unidirectional dynamic instrument mic ) have I got the right one ????? is there only one type of shure sm57 ????? and the term (unidirectional) what does that do/mean ???????

all the best, bluesfloyd,
That sounds like the right mic. It's possible that the packaging is different in the UK compared to the US. If you're looking for a basic, inexpensive, works on almost anything mic, the sm57 is a great choice. Did I mention they're virtually indestructible? Regarding sound, keep in mind that individual tastes vary. You can use a 57 on almost anything and get a usable sound, but I can't say it's my favorite mic for most things. Also, ItsaBass really likes the beta 57 while I can't stand it.
 
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I agree with almost everything said so far in above postings. However let me firmly warn you that SM-57 also happens to be one of the worlds most counterfeit mics. The counterfeits have gone so far that it is impossible to make out fake ones from originals visually, even after taking apart. Obliviously fake one is ****ty in what it does. I wouldnt buy from anyone except a reputable authorized Shure seller. Beware of cheap deals they are all fakes.

There are no different types of SM-57 except for the Beta SM-57 mentioned above. The beta is said to be optimized for live situations by Shure. The mic itself is great for close micing of guitar cabinets due to its endurance of very high SPL. It is also made like a tank and usually lasts a very long time with abuse. The frequency response is not the most wide among mics, though it captures the frequencies produced by guitar loud speakers very well with minimal coloration.
 
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^ the thought crossed my mind also ... The seller calling it unidirectional .... sounds like get are trying to shift fakes.
 
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I like the beta 57 for male vocals a lot but a good old sm57 is a great utility mic
 
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Are we sure it's not an old Unidyne III SM57 and the seller just misspoke?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_kw=Shure+Unidyne+III+SM57+Microphone

Also, my understanding is the only difference between a Beta 57 and an SM57 is the grille. The Beta grille was optimized as a pop-screen for plosives of vocals. The transducer, electronics and mic body are the same otherwise.

The only difference between a standard 57 and a 58 is the grille. A Beta 57 has completely different electronics from a standard 57.
 
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The only difference between a standard 57 and a 58 is the grille. A Beta 57 has completely different electronics from a standard 57.

Can we get this misconception off the internet please? Anyone who's A/B'd these mics with the grill off knows they are different.

Also, I have a feeling he may be misinterpreting Unidyne as unidirectional...?
 
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The SM-58 has a similar body, but the mic capsule (diaphragm) is different from the SM-57.
As a result, the frequency response, the tonal pattern it picks up, differs from the 57.
There's a bit more midrange and treble emphasis in the 58, whereas the 57 is less bright on the top.

The Beta 57 is quite a bit hotter (more signal output), due to its' use of the more powerful neodymium magnet.
The frequency response is also wider than the standard 57; it picks up more on the treble and bass.
The pickup pattern differs from the standard 57, as the Beta is more tightly focused (supercardioid).
The advantage here is that due to its' tighter pickup pattern, the Beta rejects feedback better than the previous model SM.

http://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2374

http://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/230

The SM 57 is the big daddy, and all these other mics are worthy variations. Rare is the moment when a Shure will let you down.
 
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Can we get this misconception off the internet please? Anyone who's A/B'd these mics with the grill off knows they are different.

Also, I have a feeling he may be misinterpreting Unidyne as unidirectional...?

I stand corrected. I'd heard that about SM58s many times and thought it was true. I don't own a 58 because honestly I think they sound awful. Give me a Sennheiser 835 for vocal duty any day.
 
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The SM-58 has a similar body, but the mic capsule (diaphragm) is different from the SM-57.
As a result, the frequency response, the tonal pattern it picks up, differs from the 57.
There's a bit more midrange and treble emphasis in the 58, whereas the 57 is less bright on the top.

The Beta 57 is quite a bit hotter (more signal output), due to its' use of the more powerful neodymium magnet.
The frequency response is also wider than the standard 57; it picks up more on the treble and bass.
The pickup pattern differs from the standard 57, as the Beta is more tightly focused (supercardioid).
The advantage here is that due to its' tighter pickup pattern, the Beta rejects feedback better than the previous model SM.

http://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2374

http://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/230

The SM 57 is the big daddy, and all these other mics are worthy variations. Rare is the moment when a Shure will let you down.

Yes, good on you for adding the info you did.

The SM57 and Beta57 are not the same mic. Even a simple check on Shure's website gives some quick spec's.
SM57 is listed as a "unidirectional" cardioid mic. That could be a bit misleading, but technically it's simply stating that it's pick up pattern is "uni" one direction, towards the obvious front of the mic. It's pattern of pick up is cardioid, so it's a wide pattern, yet good at rejection from the rear to help avoid feedback in live situations. It is a directional mic such that it does not pick up from behind it's pattern.
Frequency response is stated at 40hz to 15Khz. It makes for a great amp/instrument mic as it excels in the midrange, and handles high sound pressure levels/SPL.

The Beta57 is a "Supercardioid" pick up pattern, meaning it picks up in a narrower range/angle compared to the SM57. If you want a bit more focused pick up that rejects a bit more sound pick up while mic'ing your amp or instrument, the Beta could be the one you want.
It also has a slightly extended upper frequency response at 50hz to 16khz. It doesn't pick up as low as the SM57, but offers a bit more brightness/treble pick up.

The SM58 is a decades tested "go to" dynamic element LIVE mic. It can do ok for basic recording, but it's claim to fame is live use as it has a nice presence in the vocal range, and it's built like a tank. It is also listed as a "unidirectional" cardioid pick up pattern. There are better vocal recording mic's, and obviously different flavors for live performance. But the SM58 is a solid live vocal mic, and works well for vocal recording.
Frequency response is 50hz to 15Khz.

The Beta58 is a "super-cardioid" pick up pattern. The "super-cardioid" pick up is a big distinguishing difference between SM and Beta mics.
Thus, it has better rear rejection for live performance.

There are of course other mics that people prefer for live and recording, but the 58 and 57 are a standard to have in your mic kit. And for the hobbyist and home recorder they are great mic's to start from and to create a reference, that way you can then hear what other mics bring to your sound.

I have SM57's for instruments, they are clean and kinda neutral, which is great for recording speaker cabs. I also use a number of SM58's for live work, great mic for that purpose.

I also do voice-over work and my preferred mic for that is the CAD Equitek E100S Supercardioid Condenser mic. Condenser mic's need a power source to their work, and offer more sensitivity if you want or need to pick up the nuances of sound. The CAD is fantastic as a voice over mic, vocal recording mic, and recording non amplified instruments like acoustic guitar, sax, piano, etc..., and studio vocals. They are very reasonably priced for the amazing quality they give, and they are very well constructed. In many areas they rival mic's costing 4 times + more money. They really are at the level of moderately priced Neuman mic's.
If you can afford or are willing to pay about the cost of 3 SM57's, try the CAD Equitek E100S Supercardioid Condenser.
 
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I've read up on the CAD. Very balanced and even tonal response, over a wide range.
For the prices I've seen listed (online, anywhere from $350 - 500 US), it's a good mic.
Not many have a US-made condenser mic with those kind of specs.
 
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Can we get this misconception off the internet please? Anyone who's A/B'd these mics with the grill off knows they are different.

Also, I have a feeling he may be misinterpreting Unidyne as unidirectional...?

I can't find it now but I seem to recall this information coming from Shure
 
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I have a collection of mics. The 57 is a great amp mic. The 58 sounds better than the Sennheiser 835 on my voice, but the 835 is a higher output. I would start with a 57 and a 58 and go from there. Some people like the AKG D-5 and others like the Electrovoice 767 while others like the Shure Beta 57 and Beta 58 for vocals. It really comes down to the right tool for the job. There are many great mics in this price range. Good Luck.
 
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