"Simplifying" my gig board -- live board v2

TwilightOdyssey

Darkness on the edge of Tone
With my melodic rock band, FM RADIO, I am the entire band: live guitar & Arturia Beatstep Pro providing drums, bass, and synth. That's a lot to carry! So, my biggest issue is always space and convenience. To that end, I re-addressed my live situation and scaled down the pedals whilst scaling UP the amp wattage.

My previous setup was using the Studio 2 with the amp well into breakup and then just adding thickness and additional gain, as well as compression/modulation/delay with pedals. I used a Rapid Fire looper to switch between 2 flavours of gain: crunchy drive with the Bogner Uberschall and MXR micro flange and heavy drive with the Empress Heavy and strymon DECO. I used the Heavy Electronics Descend to clean the tone up.



That, unfortunately has three drawbacks:
One, it is a lot to carry
Two, it is a lot to troubleshoot should something go wrong
Three, the amp simply doesn't cover it live without adding a second one

So, I switched to my Bumbox Cielo which is essentially a JMP50 with reverb (the reverb is valve-driven and can be taken out of the circuit for additional gain.

I then revisited my pedal selection from scratch and rebuilt the board using my Pedaltrain Nano.

First up was my base tone: I wanted to keep the tone of the Cielo but give it a touch more focus and cut some of the overhang off (this amp has a LOT of bass response; you could easily use it as a bass amp).

Drive pedals I own: Way Huge Green Rhino, Xotic BB Preamp, JCollocia Horus

The Horus was the best one for my needs: totally transparent but it added just a hint of girth and focus to the tone. This pedal is now discontinued but I am always pleasantly surprised with how great it sounds.

Next up was increasing the gain from mild breakup to crunch (the Bumbox is capable of a very nice crunch tone, but at the expense of blistering volume; it's easier to just do it this way).

Boost pedals I own: Thundertomate Fat Boost, Catalinbread Naga Viper, AnalogMan Beano Boost, Greer Sweetback Driver, zvex SHO, Bogner Harlow

I tried all of them after the Horus and they all did the job well, but the one that fit the best was the SHO; the SHO is a fantastic pedal; it adds lots of sustain and creates a HUGE guitar tone. It is far from transparent, but complemented the Horus really well.

To be honest, I can gig with just the Horus/SHO combination; it's 90%+ of the tone I was after. But, I still had 2 slots open on the Nano, and I need more gain for metally bits and solos. So, I was looking for light modulation.

I don't have many modulation pedals: strymon DECO, MXR Script 90, Maestro PH1, Mooer chorus, MXR micro flange.

The DECO was selected, but I really learned a lot about its character with this more bare sonic setup: DECO has a VERY soft knee; it begins clamping down on the transients immediately and the overall effect is a softening of the leading edge of the tone; I compensated for this by bringing up the HOT preamp on the Bumbox. I added just a touch of lag to widen the sound but otherwise left the pedal at unity gain and just let it do the tape saturation/compression thing.

For the second gain stage, I revisited all of my remaining boost and distortion pedals (MXR distortion+ along with all the others mentioned). They all added varying amounts of insane metal style distortion with all of the other pedals in front! I particularly liked the sound of the Beano Boost here: the tone was VERY close to my Splawn QuickRod. However, it was entirely too noisy and created howling feedback ... plus, I have no need for that much distortion. :) So, in the end I went with the Harlow, set the boost low and let the Neve transformer do most of the work.

End result: Pretty huge guitar tone, I must say. Clips soon.

Amp settings:




Pedal settings:

 
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Re: "Simplifying" my gig board -- live board v2

sweet man! i dont know if i could set the sho like that, i feel like id kick the knob a lot
 
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Ha! It stays on at all times. :)
The only pedal switched on/off is the Harlow.
 
Re: "Simplifying" my gig board -- live board v2

gotcha, make that easy! clips soon?
 
Re: "Simplifying" my gig board -- live board v2

Had just enough time before the kids' bedtime to get the guitars recorded for this songwriting demo. This is the raw tracks with a drum loop, nothing else yet.

Signal chain is Agile AL2500 w Lollar Imperial > pedal board > Bumbox > Randall iso cab w Eminence Swamp Thang.

Recording chain is Sennheiser e609 > SSL channel strip > Focusrite Scarlett 2i2.




 
Re: "Simplifying" my gig board -- live board v2

Made some tweaks to the setup today:

Replaced the Swamp Thang with a Wizard. Replaced the LP clone with a Strat. Rest is the same.

 
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Replaced the Swamp Thang with a Wizard. Replaced the LP clone with a Strat. Rest is the same.

You appear to have included loudspeaker and guitar changes in a thread about yo' pedalboard.

It was very kind of you to let Nathan Brown overdub fizz guitar on your song.
 
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Pay no attention to me. Listen critically to your own recording.

Either the synthesizer at the beginning is intentionally detuned flat or the guitars playing over it are sharp.

This thread includes photographs of a shedload of pedals and rack gear. The snatch of exposed guitar at 1:00 sounds like the proverbial wasp in a glass jar - or like Nathan Brown's infamous Behringer amplifier.
 
Re: "Simplifying" my gig board -- live board v2

Helluva setup. Sweet tone too. But I gotta ask . . . when you have the BMT pots all "dimed" like that, isn't it basically the same as just turning up the volume?
 
Re: "Simplifying" my gig board -- live board v2

Helluva setup. Sweet tone too. But I gotta ask . . . when you have the BMT pots all "dimed" like that, isn't it basically the same as just turning up the volume?
Yes. The JMP tone stack can add as much as 10dB at certain frequencies, but it depends in part on your speaker setup.

The Bumbox's master volume is power scaled so technically it is always maxed out. In this configuration the tone stack doesn't add much to the overall level.

I typically run the Bumbox at about 18-20 Watts. That gives me a real-world output of about 96dB from 1 meter away.
 
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