Small Plexitone review

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And??
What are you talking about??
It sounds like you guys have HI-FI setups....hehe
Delicate and fragile...well that is not very useable then is it???
And to what end??
Dunno but it sounds rather silly to me somehow....
Look at Cornish...none of his stuff is true bypass, none of his stuff is delicate and out of balance....it is made for people that wants something that lasts along time.
And tell me one more time that the likes of Gilmour and others have bad bypass;)
Sorry I cannot take the pedal section of TGP very serious, it is a twillight zone at best..
 
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Well Simon:D
Gary Moore, Van Halen, M Landau, D Huff, all those cats from my youth.
Plus I heard a great deal of Maiden in my youth, Thin Lizzy, old Def Leppard before they turned wimpy...AC/DC in spades....but not really trying to get that sound, I made a much lowergained od for that....but I think the Boss had enough of od's all the sudden, so Thomas and me are making comps, and modulation effects, plus A/B boxes and a guitarselector, plus other strange things...lol
The turned down boost was made this early spring, we had some people crying over the "sensitive" boost knob;)
Hehe well it is still boosting plenty, but nowhere near as before!
Niels
 
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sosomething said:
Actually, the lack of true bypass is what would keep me from buying or using one.

In defense of the "cork sniffers" on TGP - a lot of those guys spend thousands on their rigs . all of a sudden that delicate, expensive balance is thrown off.
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Hence "Cork sniffers" :)
 
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Yeah sorry about coming off in a harsh way...but I really do not bother much with that side of the guitar world!
Ideal setups are different, and I really do not like TB much.
And it frankly bugs me that some thinks it is the second coming.....
That is why they have their world of boutique stuff.....for corksniffers....the rest do something else;)
 
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I really don't get all the hype around TB stuff. I have some TB pedals, and some buffered ones, if it sounds good, I use it. I have changed wahs to TB, because most of the non-TB ones do have a crappy switching circuit that really does suck lots of tone.

What I don't understand how these guys with a dozen pedals on their boards and extra 6' - 10' of cable to hook them up, not to mention the mechanical switches, think that their signal is "uncolored" and a buffer would be a bad thing.

I blame Fuller.
 
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Right, so, say a dozen 1M resistors in parallel, that's a path of less than 100K to ground (83.3K, but who's counting).
 
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Hehe can see the "evil" empire of buffers now;)
All that muffled stuff getting cleared up must be a unpleasent thing....
Cables colours the sound as well....it is crazy thing at best....
There is no uncoloured sound!!!
 
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I'm just saying - for my purposes, a pedal that colors my tone when turned off is useless.
 
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I modded my old CryBaby to true bypass because it sucked tone bigtime, but I honestly can't hear any difference with the PlexiTone in my chain. Can't hear any difference with Boss pedals either. Having said that, I don't think I've ever had more than 4 pedals in my chain.
 
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Well we use the OP-amp as buffer, and the pedal have +-12v to use...not the usual 4v 4.5v that most 9v have....that makes a difference, plus the OP-amp is also used in alot of mixers, it has a good sound!
Very natural, if that is any explanation!
;)
Niels
 
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Rid said:
Read again....you cannot have uncoloured bypass....unless you you have a magical device;)
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I don't need to read anything - I don't use pedals. It's that simple.

However, I don't think it's out-of-line to state that a pedal with true bypass will color the tone when disengaged less than one without true bypass.

Or are you asserting that true bypass is all hype and conjecture?


EDIT: You know what? I'm not here to argue. I'm certainly no expert when it comes to pedals - as I said, I don't use any (except for a tuner) and so I concede to my more experienced forum bros.

If I ever DO need a dist. pedal, I'll keep the plexitone in mind.
 
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It is what I do for a living man!!
I test stuff...and I have coworkers with good educations....True bypass is hype, it is a buzzword...but to some it works....if you have very very short cables, play in small rooms, spend alot of time with others like that;)
But for most players TB is useless....plain and simple!
I just had enough hearing about it, I am normally very easygoing with geartalk, and I am all for people using what works for them, and I hardly ever recommend our own stuff to most people, it is up to people what they want to use!
I have alot of pedals, from all kinds of brands, I like pedals and use them alot, have done so for a very long time now!
But I am equally at home with just a cord and an amp...it is about what works in the given situation!
True bypass is the modern mojo voodoo buzzword, and alot will defend it out alot of reasons.....
Well it is not all what they want it to be!!
Things are not ideal with guitar setups, amps have different imput impedances, speakers are different, the amp works different, there is no uniformity in this!
TB has just as many faults as some buffered stuff has....
Use what works, not what we think works....sometimes it takes a different view on what it is...amps, guitars, cords...it is all pretty lo-fi and all in the midrange of the tonal spectrum, with spikes in either way!
In other words...crude!
 
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I think...

...the clink of beer glasses; the clack of the cue ball on the stripes and solids; the dinging bells of the pinball machines; the repetive and incessant music of the video games; the shouts of, "You da man!"; and the murmur of lovers' voices trying to get "lucky";...

...all have much more impact on my tone than whether a pedal is true-bypass or simply buffered. Sorry, I'm someone who actually makes a living playing music in the real world.

=============================================

But what I REALLY want to know is: How does the PlexiTone compare to say, the MI Crunch Box? Or the Radial Hot British or Plexitube?

Bill
 
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Rid said:
It is what I do for a living man!!
I test stuff...and I have coworkers with good educations....True bypass is hype, it is a buzzword...but to some it works....if you have very very short cables, play in small rooms, spend alot of time with others like that;)
But for most players TB is useless....plain and simple!
I just had enough hearing about it, I am normally very easygoing with geartalk, and I am all for people using what works for them, and I hardly ever recommend our own stuff to most people, it is up to people what they want to use!
I have alot of pedals, from all kinds of brands, I like pedals and use them alot, have done so for a very long time now!
But I am equally at home with just a cord and an amp...it is about what works in the given situation!
True bypass is the modern mojo voodoo buzzword, and alot will defend it out alot of reasons.....
Well it is not all what they want it to be!!
Things are not ideal with guitar setups, amps have different imput impedances, speakers are different, the amp works different, there is no uniformity in this!
TB has just as many faults as some buffered stuff has....
Use what works, not what we think works....sometimes it takes a different view on what it is...amps, guitars, cords...it is all pretty lo-fi and all in the midrange of the tonal spectrum, with spikes in either way!
In other words...crude!
Click to expand...


My point exactly.

Bill
 
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I dont care about bypass, I just play ;)

I tried a Marshall 1987X amp with a OCD infront... One thing is the fact, that a OCD sounds like crap another thing, is the annoying popping noise it makes when being engaged.

And when you run a Non-MV amp at 5 in a store, that is a LOUD pop!

Like Rid says, use what works in the given situation.
 
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Boogie Bill said:
...all have much more impact on my tone than whether a pedal is true-bypass or simply buffered. Sorry, I'm someone who actually makes a living playing music in the real world.
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To be fair, all the glass clinking and conversation sort of melts away and the little things become quite a bit more important once you step out of the "real world" and into a studio.


- signed, another "real world" player
 
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So Rid -

What is it that DOES make a difference in regards to bypass / tone coloration?

I ask because I know for a fact that some pedals (not just wah pedals) do degrade the sound of the guitar even when turned off. Maybe TB is hype as the "perfect solution," but then what IS the sensible solution?

I'm not trying for 100% ultra-fidelity - I don't use those $150 low impedance cables and the only parts of my rig that are hand made are my head and cab (and my strings, if you count DR "The hand-made string!" :) ) but I have noticed a real-life loss of tone from certain pedals and I'm picky enough to care about that.
 
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