SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
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ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
1. Pedal sounds good!
2. There are definitely quite a few legit issues with the older line of SD pedals.
3. The pedal market is definitely over-saturated, especially drive/distortion pedals.
4. It's tough to see from here what SD brings to the table that other pedal builders aren't already.
5. Would it maybe make sense for SD to play to its strengths when designing pedals? How about partnering with a modelling company to build a pedal that emulates certain pickups? Or something someone suggested a while back: a really nice wah with a custom wound inductor? Who knows more about winding a coil of wire than Seymour Duncan?
1. Pedal sounds good!
2. There are definitely quite a few legit issues with the older line of SD pedals.
3. The pedal market is definitely over-saturated, especially drive/distortion pedals.
4. It's tough to see from here what SD brings to the table that other pedal builders aren't already.
5. Would it maybe make sense for SD to play to its strengths when designing pedals? How about partnering with a modelling company to build a pedal that emulates certain pickups? Or something someone suggested a while back: a really nice wah with a custom wound inductor? Who knows more about winding a coil of wire than Seymour Duncan?
Chris of Arabia
Desert RATT
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
From what I hear on this, I like it
From what I hear on this, I like it
misterwhizzy
Well-known member
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
I like that second video better, as it really showcases the dynamics about halfway through. I wasn't sure about when it started, with all the overdubs, but it got better as it went on. I am also looking forward to the new lines, as I had a few issues with the older ones I had (sound and function more than reliability). Active tone controls on any overdrive or distortion are great ideas. The 'hot Marshall in a box' isn't served by many pedals (there are some), and most distortion pedals I can't stand....this one sounds good, not overly compressed, which I like.
I like that second video better, as it really showcases the dynamics about halfway through. I wasn't sure about when it started, with all the overdubs, but it got better as it went on. I am also looking forward to the new lines, as I had a few issues with the older ones I had (sound and function more than reliability). Active tone controls on any overdrive or distortion are great ideas. The 'hot Marshall in a box' isn't served by many pedals (there are some), and most distortion pedals I can't stand....this one sounds good, not overly compressed, which I like.
JeffB
Let it B
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
First video: kudos to the player, but the pedal sounded"meh"
2nd Vid: great playing and much better tones. Though it seems like it was eq'ed dark/warm. I never heard any of the "open" nature memtioned in the adcopy text.
How about someone just plugging into the thing and wailing for a few minutes? No studio production, no backing, just the player, pedal, and amp, and a room mic?
First video: kudos to the player, but the pedal sounded"meh"
2nd Vid: great playing and much better tones. Though it seems like it was eq'ed dark/warm. I never heard any of the "open" nature memtioned in the adcopy text.
How about someone just plugging into the thing and wailing for a few minutes? No studio production, no backing, just the player, pedal, and amp, and a room mic?
scottish
WeirdScienceologist
zenmindbeginner
New member
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
Thank you kindly sir! : )
The sound of the pedal... it's vintage voiced.. warm, fat and smooth. As far as the claims of an "open sound", I would definitely describe the sound as "open" for a dark vintage voiced pedal. It has real fat lower mids but it isn't congested sounding, the highs never get too bright and so the tone stack voicing is fairly natural and not hyped or artificial sounding.
I might have some stuff that hit the cutting room floor... I did the solo for NIB and it's just what you said, guitar to pedal to amp and to mic.
That was how I did it for the recordings. Played into my Fender Princeton reverb set to clean with just the pedal in between the guitar and amp.
Definitely had an early Sabbath, Neil Youngish tone, almost like an old Vox amp pushed with really hot pickups. It had sort of a fuzz feel too... definitely a unique pedal. I was expecting a typical Marshall-in-a-Box but the Dirty Deed had some unique character and aspects to it that were anything but a MIAB. Thanks for the props on the video... the first song has the distortion controlled by the guitar's volume knob starting out fairly dirty and going into full blown exploding amp mode.
Thank you kindly sir! : )
The sound of the pedal... it's vintage voiced.. warm, fat and smooth. As far as the claims of an "open sound", I would definitely describe the sound as "open" for a dark vintage voiced pedal. It has real fat lower mids but it isn't congested sounding, the highs never get too bright and so the tone stack voicing is fairly natural and not hyped or artificial sounding.
I might have some stuff that hit the cutting room floor... I did the solo for NIB and it's just what you said, guitar to pedal to amp and to mic.
That was how I did it for the recordings. Played into my Fender Princeton reverb set to clean with just the pedal in between the guitar and amp.
Definitely had an early Sabbath, Neil Youngish tone, almost like an old Vox amp pushed with really hot pickups. It had sort of a fuzz feel too... definitely a unique pedal. I was expecting a typical Marshall-in-a-Box but the Dirty Deed had some unique character and aspects to it that were anything but a MIAB. Thanks for the props on the video... the first song has the distortion controlled by the guitar's volume knob starting out fairly dirty and going into full blown exploding amp mode.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
Let's don't even get started with how the knobs are set on most video's. There are a few guys who do a good job of really showing you what a pedal can do and how the knobs act/interact.
But I don't think that was the purpose of this.
Let's don't even get started with how the knobs are set on most video's. There are a few guys who do a good job of really showing you what a pedal can do and how the knobs act/interact.
But I don't think that was the purpose of this.
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
I wish MXR would rate their distortion pedals in terms of output. The Custom Badass had *almost* enough, so does that mean I want the Super Badass now? I had a Doubleshot and a Fullbore, but both of those had very few sweet spots.
I wish MXR would rate their distortion pedals in terms of output. The Custom Badass had *almost* enough, so does that mean I want the Super Badass now? I had a Doubleshot and a Fullbore, but both of those had very few sweet spots.
chadd
Well-known member
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
You left out a couple of my favorites:
“When I was young I observed that nine out of every ten things I did were failures, so I did ten times more work”
“A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.”
George Bernard Shaw
As for the pedal, I wasn't a big fan of the pedal, the tone just sounded off on the chords to me. It sounded better on the single note parts though.
You left out a couple of my favorites:
“When I was young I observed that nine out of every ten things I did were failures, so I did ten times more work”
“A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.”
George Bernard Shaw
As for the pedal, I wasn't a big fan of the pedal, the tone just sounded off on the chords to me. It sounded better on the single note parts though.
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
I'll admit that my SFX-01 did have a faulty switch, but they replaced it free. I'll also admit that I don't play "live", so my pedals don't get "stomped" like a pro would do. But other than that, I didn't know they had problems. I love all of mine. (Pedal Booster, Twin Tube Classic, Lava Box, and Tweak Fuzz.)
But . . . if I had to criticize one thing on this new pedal, it would be the case. The one shining star of Duncan pedals, in general, is the heavy duty, unique case. Heavy gauge steel top and bottom, with a nice ergonomic slant to the front panel. It's what sets Duncan pedals apart from so many others. But on the "Dirty Deeds" pedal, it looks like they went with that generic pot metal "bud box". Why did they do that?
Anyway, it sounds good, but not sure I can't nail that tone with my other boxes. I'll have to check one out in "real time".
Artie
P.S. Shouldn't this thread be in the "Amp" section?
I'll admit that my SFX-01 did have a faulty switch, but they replaced it free. I'll also admit that I don't play "live", so my pedals don't get "stomped" like a pro would do. But other than that, I didn't know they had problems. I love all of mine. (Pedal Booster, Twin Tube Classic, Lava Box, and Tweak Fuzz.)
But . . . if I had to criticize one thing on this new pedal, it would be the case. The one shining star of Duncan pedals, in general, is the heavy duty, unique case. Heavy gauge steel top and bottom, with a nice ergonomic slant to the front panel. It's what sets Duncan pedals apart from so many others. But on the "Dirty Deeds" pedal, it looks like they went with that generic pot metal "bud box". Why did they do that?
Anyway, it sounds good, but not sure I can't nail that tone with my other boxes. I'll have to check one out in "real time".
Artie
P.S. Shouldn't this thread be in the "Amp" section?
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ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Hammond aluminum enclosure. They're actually far more durable than a bent sheet metal case.
I'll admit that my SFX-01 did have a faulty switch, but they replaced it free. I'll also admit that I don't play "live", so my pedals don't get "stomped" like a pro would do. But other than that, I didn't know they had problems. I love all of mine. (Pedal Booster, Twin Tube Classic, Lava Box, and Tweak Fuzz.)
But . . . if I had to criticize one thing on this new pedal, it would be the case. The one shining star of Duncan pedals, in general, is the heavy duty, unique case. Heavy gauge steel top and bottom, with a nice ergonomic slant to the front panel. It's what sets Duncan pedals apart from so many others. But on the "Dirty Deeds" pedal, it looks like they went with that generic pot metal "bud box". Why did they do that?
Anyway, it sounds good, but not sure I can't nail that tone with my other boxes. I'll have to check one out in "real time".
Artie
P.S. Shouldn't this thread be in the "Amp" section?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Hammond aluminum enclosure. They're actually far more durable than a bent sheet metal case.
Rodney Gene
O.G.
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
Wow, a week has passed. LOL
I would like to apologize to TGWIF (Christian?) My initial response, despite its intent and points of truth was just as emotional and hasty as his. So for that I apologize Christian (and to anyone else). If we ever want to be influential and integral, we need to be mindful about how we present our ideas.
My personal philosophy is that I try to be certain no other person in this world is diminished in any way for having come into contact with me. Not easy on a forum! LOL. We fail, we get back up. I avoid forum rants to support this. Why I jumped in? In retrospect it is largely due to that fact that I know what level of integrity decisions are made from at SD. This is no 'grab what we can and run' idea. SD thinks in long term. SD thinks about it customers. That's why SD has long term success, 10, 20, 30 year employees, customers and relationships.
I have such a small window of time each day to participate in a community. I am slowly attempting to integrate back into this community of players (if it fits who I am today) and have been surprised at just how 'OK' it is for slander or disrespect to persist without being checked. Maybe I am too old school or maybe I just know how important it is for community building to create a positive, supportive, real, dynamic, interactive forum experience...today. We all need each other in this gig, whether we realize it or not.
So, why jump into a completely saturated market? I don't speak for SD, but they do have the passion for it. They are building on a history of success and failures and learning to do it well. This is no whim, this goes back 30 years. It's going to work. Even if that were not so, a company, a person, groups, foundations etc... have to move forward on our ideas. We build our lives on our ideas. We survive, we thrive, we are stimulated by our ideas. We expand, grow become joyful and happy pursuing our ideas.
Couldn't we ask...why start a rock band? Aren't there enough? Who is going to listen to one more Rock band? Why start a pop band? Why post on Soundcloud? Isn't it all saturated? Why post a YouTube video? Isn't YouTube saturated beyond comprehension? Of course. But hasn't YouTube only gotten more and more amazing for us as curious humans with the infinite videos available to us? For me it has. I am so grateful for all of the teachers, comedians, TedTalks, free tutorials, demos etc. etc.. It has changed how I learn. The 'pie' we are all wanting a piece of is ourselves. We are the pie makers. It is an infinite pie. To suggest we stop being creative and stop acting on our creative ideas and impulses is to suggest we wither and die even if that is not the point of the original rant.
This is a good company. I am still a supporter after 20+ years. I hope the forum continues to grow in a positive supportive way and I hope I can find the space here for my own brand of contribution. As long as I post here I will do what I can to contribute to that.
Respect and cheers!
RG
EDIT: Thanks For Reading!
Wow, a week has passed. LOL
I would like to apologize to TGWIF (Christian?) My initial response, despite its intent and points of truth was just as emotional and hasty as his. So for that I apologize Christian (and to anyone else). If we ever want to be influential and integral, we need to be mindful about how we present our ideas.
My personal philosophy is that I try to be certain no other person in this world is diminished in any way for having come into contact with me. Not easy on a forum! LOL. We fail, we get back up. I avoid forum rants to support this. Why I jumped in? In retrospect it is largely due to that fact that I know what level of integrity decisions are made from at SD. This is no 'grab what we can and run' idea. SD thinks in long term. SD thinks about it customers. That's why SD has long term success, 10, 20, 30 year employees, customers and relationships.
I have such a small window of time each day to participate in a community. I am slowly attempting to integrate back into this community of players (if it fits who I am today) and have been surprised at just how 'OK' it is for slander or disrespect to persist without being checked. Maybe I am too old school or maybe I just know how important it is for community building to create a positive, supportive, real, dynamic, interactive forum experience...today. We all need each other in this gig, whether we realize it or not.
So, why jump into a completely saturated market? I don't speak for SD, but they do have the passion for it. They are building on a history of success and failures and learning to do it well. This is no whim, this goes back 30 years. It's going to work. Even if that were not so, a company, a person, groups, foundations etc... have to move forward on our ideas. We build our lives on our ideas. We survive, we thrive, we are stimulated by our ideas. We expand, grow become joyful and happy pursuing our ideas.
Couldn't we ask...why start a rock band? Aren't there enough? Who is going to listen to one more Rock band? Why start a pop band? Why post on Soundcloud? Isn't it all saturated? Why post a YouTube video? Isn't YouTube saturated beyond comprehension? Of course. But hasn't YouTube only gotten more and more amazing for us as curious humans with the infinite videos available to us? For me it has. I am so grateful for all of the teachers, comedians, TedTalks, free tutorials, demos etc. etc.. It has changed how I learn. The 'pie' we are all wanting a piece of is ourselves. We are the pie makers. It is an infinite pie. To suggest we stop being creative and stop acting on our creative ideas and impulses is to suggest we wither and die even if that is not the point of the original rant.
This is a good company. I am still a supporter after 20+ years. I hope the forum continues to grow in a positive supportive way and I hope I can find the space here for my own brand of contribution. As long as I post here I will do what I can to contribute to that.
Respect and cheers!
RG
EDIT: Thanks For Reading!
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richard parker
Active member
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
I'm not hearing anything I haven't heard in other pedals. The effect it has on the low strings is way too fuzzy and undefined for me. There are plenty of players that use similar tones but just not my cup of tea.
I'm not hearing anything I haven't heard in other pedals. The effect it has on the low strings is way too fuzzy and undefined for me. There are plenty of players that use similar tones but just not my cup of tea.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: SNEAK PEEK: Seymour Duncan's Dirty Deed Distortion Pedal
Issue w/ Duncan cases: They are too large for some. Of course,, they also usually have more features. Life is a trade off.
If I were making pedals, I'd have:
The mini-line; Essential tone and function of my main boxes
My main pedals - like Basic Boss/Ibanez/MXR size
My expanded feature line - double size cases etc...
And again - if Duncan, I'd be abvout tone: getting the MOST out of a Pedal for YOUR guitar/pickups - input impedance switch (because mega output can generate mega-crap), super quiet/super bypass, pickup switch for single/double sound to get the tone you need from the pups you have. And add an ACTIVE tone for true push/cut. Slap all of that on an MXR Distortion+ and it would be super flexible and pretty bad@$$ compared to the basic bad@$$ and you could seriously craft YOUR tone out of it with an old Strat single or a Blackout.
But for Duncan to REALLY grow - it's either Guitars, Amps, or Effects. Perhaps the odd part like pots etc...
DiMarzio has pretty cool straps...
Issue w/ Duncan cases: They are too large for some. Of course,, they also usually have more features. Life is a trade off.
If I were making pedals, I'd have:
The mini-line; Essential tone and function of my main boxes
My main pedals - like Basic Boss/Ibanez/MXR size
My expanded feature line - double size cases etc...
And again - if Duncan, I'd be abvout tone: getting the MOST out of a Pedal for YOUR guitar/pickups - input impedance switch (because mega output can generate mega-crap), super quiet/super bypass, pickup switch for single/double sound to get the tone you need from the pups you have. And add an ACTIVE tone for true push/cut. Slap all of that on an MXR Distortion+ and it would be super flexible and pretty bad@$$ compared to the basic bad@$$ and you could seriously craft YOUR tone out of it with an old Strat single or a Blackout.
But for Duncan to REALLY grow - it's either Guitars, Amps, or Effects. Perhaps the odd part like pots etc...
DiMarzio has pretty cool straps...
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