So, stripped Les Paul Studio bodies...

Aceman

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WTF is that about? Why would anyone buy a Les Paul studio and strip the parts out then sell the body?

I just don't get that. The body isn't worth a ton on its own. The parts are meh. what is that all about????

(Talking about on eBay)
 
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Because people plan to replace all the parts anyway. They don't want to pay extra for parts they plan on selling. I bought one that I put a bunch of leftover parts on and it was pretty good, especially because I only payed for the body.
 
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I’m not buying one unless they also remove:

strap buttons
nut
frets
truss rod

I’m pretty sure there’s no way Gibson is including a truss rod as good as the used All Parts one I’m getting on eBay from this guy who also sells counterfeit sneakers and fidget spinners.
 
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Stratosphere sells the bodies all the time. There was, or is, a seller named Gibson Dependable on ebay that did/does as well. I assume that they find deals on whole guitars somewhere, and then make a good chunk more by parting them out.
 
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Because people plan to replace all the parts anyway. They don't want to pay extra for parts they plan on selling. I bought one that I put a bunch of leftover parts on and it was pretty good, especially because I only payed for the body.

This does not make sense, since the seller has to buy the whole guitar in the first place....
 
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Maybe people capitalizing on broken neck/headstock Les Pauls?


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This does not make sense, since the seller has to buy the whole guitar in the first place....

No, that's why people would want to buy them. It's good for buyers who want to get as close as possible to building their own guitar without breaking out any wood working tools.
 
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Maybe people capitalizing on broken neck/headstock Les Pauls?


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Not from what I've seen from the sellers I mentioned. But, I wonder about fretwork, nut, maybe twisted necks, neck angle ... stuff you cant really see in the photos.
 
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A lot of those guitars come used or in less than "preferable condition". They have a couple of classics with repaired headstocks. A R8 for about $2200. You can probably get it down to $2000. Tempting, but no COA/case. Some of the classics, standards, and traditionals might be worth it. Its still a crap shoot of what kind of guitar you'll get.

Edit: The stratosphere seems to be using blown out Gibsons from 2014-2016 mostly. I'm sure they're making enough money off this to *keep it going. They seem to have a decent amount of inventory available.

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There is plenty of market for this........not the least because there actually is someone who has been doing it for the last 10 years.

Just like there are people who won't replace pickups and don't understand why you would do such a thing, there are people who stick with existing hardware and can't grasp that other people might not like stock parts. Once you've done it on a guitar or two you look for better ways. I mean the existence of Warmoth should have clued you in.
 
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But where do the original guitars come from?

I mean, at some point, someone owns the Les Paul, and paid for it. The bodies I see go for way less than would seem cost effective.
 
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Definitely. I saw a '09 Gibson ES 339 go for $1000. I almost bit on it, but didn't want to commit to project like that after my melody maker.

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Not from what I've seen from the sellers I mentioned. But, I wonder about fretwork, nut, maybe twisted necks, neck angle ... stuff you cant really see in the photos.

Yeah, I commented before I went over and took a look (I’d never even realized it was a thing). Does feel like it’d be something of a crap-shoot.


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didnt know this was a thing

A simple cruise of Squeebay or Treeverb will yield stacks of Gibson and Fender bodies, necks, and hardware - brand spanking new. Yes - new stuff, blown apart, and sold for MORE separately than can be gotten for the complete and playing instrument. WHY, YOU ASK? Because of this DIY build your own mania that has seized the market. Now you can have a Les Paul built just how you like it, even if you tear it the hell up while you are doing it.

I do not understand it, but I am willing to make money off the buzz. When GC has brand new or really nice used stuff marked way the hell down to move it - snatch that **** up right now, take it home, unscrew everything, take pix, and list it for sale within hours. Relax as your Paypal account fills up. REPEAT.
 
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But where do the original guitars come from?

I mean, at some point, someone owns the Les Paul, and paid for it. The bodies I see go for way less than would seem cost effective.

Buying in bulk from dealers blowing out inventory and locally sourced used gear. I've heard a couple stories about their operation, do enough volume and the numbers work. Fender is trying to combat it a bit with selling their own parts direct.
 
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Intriguing. Now, where to find the pile of GC old stock turnover....
 
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Parts are worth more than the whole. It is the same in classic cars. Take a look on eBay motors. You buy a car for X amount, you strip off every part that can be removed, sell those parts for a total of X+Y, then junk or sell the shell. Profit to be had because each buyer who wants a particular part will pay a certain amount for it and it just adds up. I have a '51 Chevy with no money invested because I eBayed off the parts of it I did not want and it added up to what I payed for the whole car.
 
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See - No they are not in this. At least I don't think so. I'm looking at the prices and looking at the whole guitar cost and I'm not seeing it.

The guitars are so over-priced whole that I fail to see the parted value.
 
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I really get the concept for Fender style guitars, they remind me of Harley style bikes. So many interchangeable parts that can be used on so many guitars and let people build the exact guitar they want. I can see parting out a guitar for more than the whole, especially if you get them at a good price.

For the Gibsons I tend to agree with you Ace, the math seems interesting. I’ve considered it for an Explorer or V, where even if I bought a whole guitar I’d replace everything (go to black hardware, locking tuners, different knobs, different pickups) but I’ve never been serious enough about it to pull the trigger. Are you thinking of doing one?
 
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