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Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
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Franknfilms
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
Very interested in these results. I've used dunlop and ernie ball but not schaller so I can't vote.
Very interested in these results. I've used dunlop and ernie ball but not schaller so I can't vote.
ItsaBass
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
Dunlop for me, no question. Schallers annoy me for a variety of reasons.
The main reason is compatibility. You can use a strap with Dunlop locking buttons whether the strap has the Dunlop inserts or whether it has no inserts at all. With Schaller strap locks, a strap without the dedicated Schaller "hook" attached slips right off of the buttons very easily. Not every strap I have is equipped with locks, and the Dunlops make this possible. Also, sometimes I forget a strap, and if I do this with my one guitar that has the Schaller locks, I am screwed unless someone else at the gig has a strap I can borrow that already has the Shaller hooks on it.
Another reason is that they feel like a more secure latching mechanism than the Schallers. Reason 2.5 is that because of the design of this latching mechanism, they are quicker and easier for me to hook and unhook.
The third reason is that they look more like most stock strap buttons in terms of shape. And they are even better (tighter and heavier) than most stock strap buttons when used with a strap that doesn't have the Dunlop inserts attached.
The fourth is that you need a wrench to attach or remove the Schaller hooks. You can use a variety of tools (including any old key) to remove or install the Dunlop inserts.
Finally, the orientation of the parts that attach to the strap does not matter with the Dunlops. The Schallers must be rotated to a certain orientation when installing them, or else the strap sits oddly on the buttons.
Schallers are over-engineered and over-dedicated IMO. They may actually be the better built lock, but in terms of real-world usability and common-sense features, the Dunlops are a winner IMO.
I usually install the buttons, but I don't use the inserts except on straps with loose button holes.
Dunlop for me, no question. Schallers annoy me for a variety of reasons.
The main reason is compatibility. You can use a strap with Dunlop locking buttons whether the strap has the Dunlop inserts or whether it has no inserts at all. With Schaller strap locks, a strap without the dedicated Schaller "hook" attached slips right off of the buttons very easily. Not every strap I have is equipped with locks, and the Dunlops make this possible. Also, sometimes I forget a strap, and if I do this with my one guitar that has the Schaller locks, I am screwed unless someone else at the gig has a strap I can borrow that already has the Shaller hooks on it.
Another reason is that they feel like a more secure latching mechanism than the Schallers. Reason 2.5 is that because of the design of this latching mechanism, they are quicker and easier for me to hook and unhook.
The third reason is that they look more like most stock strap buttons in terms of shape. And they are even better (tighter and heavier) than most stock strap buttons when used with a strap that doesn't have the Dunlop inserts attached.
The fourth is that you need a wrench to attach or remove the Schaller hooks. You can use a variety of tools (including any old key) to remove or install the Dunlop inserts.
Finally, the orientation of the parts that attach to the strap does not matter with the Dunlops. The Schallers must be rotated to a certain orientation when installing them, or else the strap sits oddly on the buttons.
Schallers are over-engineered and over-dedicated IMO. They may actually be the better built lock, but in terms of real-world usability and common-sense features, the Dunlops are a winner IMO.
I usually install the buttons, but I don't use the inserts except on straps with loose button holes.
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Ironbird666
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
On my neck heavy guitars I like to use a good, thick leather strap and Schaller strap locks. On all of my superstrats or anything similar I use Dimarzio Cliplocks, clip and forget, very secure.
The Schaller locks have always worked great for me so I've never even tried the Dunlop brand to be honest. I use them for my LP, V, SG, and anything else that dives enough to make the Cliplocks not feel right when standing up. One thing for certain is SOME type of locking device WILL be used on all of my guitars, no question.
On my neck heavy guitars I like to use a good, thick leather strap and Schaller strap locks. On all of my superstrats or anything similar I use Dimarzio Cliplocks, clip and forget, very secure.
The Schaller locks have always worked great for me so I've never even tried the Dunlop brand to be honest. I use them for my LP, V, SG, and anything else that dives enough to make the Cliplocks not feel right when standing up. One thing for certain is SOME type of locking device WILL be used on all of my guitars, no question.
hareek
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
I have Schallers on my strat and love them. I do usually put a drop or two of Hopp's gun oil inside the strap lock so that it reduces friction when moving around the peg. I noticed a build up of black "grind" in the past and this seemed to help a bit.
I have Schallers on my strat and love them. I do usually put a drop or two of Hopp's gun oil inside the strap lock so that it reduces friction when moving around the peg. I noticed a build up of black "grind" in the past and this seemed to help a bit.
hareek
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
I never had a problem with this on my Schaller pegs. I used regular straps all the time before I bought the locks, it just depends on how old and worn the strap is. Eventually, any leather strap will wear down to the point where it has a hard time staying on any type of strap peg.
I never had a problem with this on my Schaller pegs. I used regular straps all the time before I bought the locks, it just depends on how old and worn the strap is. Eventually, any leather strap will wear down to the point where it has a hard time staying on any type of strap peg.
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H8Red442
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
Schaller. I've had the balls fall out of the Dunlops. With the cuff on the Schallers, even if the pin fails, you're not gonna drop your guitar unless you're swinging it behind your head.
Schaller. I've had the balls fall out of the Dunlops. With the cuff on the Schallers, even if the pin fails, you're not gonna drop your guitar unless you're swinging it behind your head.
hareek
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
This was the selling point for me as well. This design seemed more secure than the Dunlop.
This was the selling point for me as well. This design seemed more secure than the Dunlop.
JeffB
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
Another plus one for Schalller. Dunlops pin that goes into the body is great but the locking mechanism feels about as solid as cheerios sitting around in milk after a couple hours.
Not to mention its much easier to think that you have locked up, and it actually has not with the Dunlops.
Another plus one for Schalller. Dunlops pin that goes into the body is great but the locking mechanism feels about as solid as cheerios sitting around in milk after a couple hours.
Not to mention its much easier to think that you have locked up, and it actually has not with the Dunlops.
Reload in 5
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
Schaller
Had dunlops for a while, actually dropped a guitar that seemed to be locked on
Also didnt like how far out the dunlop places the strap from the body
Schallers arent any harder to use than the dunlops. I can actually use them quicker than the dunlops, since every time I used the dunlops I had to spend an extra second making SURE it was locked in, since I had dropped that guitar once.
Arent the schallers standard on the newer american strats? I guess everybodies straps are just falling off of them.........
Schaller
Had dunlops for a while, actually dropped a guitar that seemed to be locked on
Also didnt like how far out the dunlop places the strap from the body
Schallers arent any harder to use than the dunlops. I can actually use them quicker than the dunlops, since every time I used the dunlops I had to spend an extra second making SURE it was locked in, since I had dropped that guitar once.
Arent the schallers standard on the newer american strats? I guess everybodies straps are just falling off of them.........
astrozombie
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
yeah the schallers, or at least some version of the design, is standard on american instruments.
I'm trying to decide what I'll put in my Jazzmaster.
the strap dedicated to that guitar doesnt have very wide holes, so the huge schaller pin is a pain in the butt to put in. I remember the dunlop one being alot smaller.
yeah the schallers, or at least some version of the design, is standard on american instruments.
I'm trying to decide what I'll put in my Jazzmaster.
the strap dedicated to that guitar doesnt have very wide holes, so the huge schaller pin is a pain in the butt to put in. I remember the dunlop one being alot smaller.
Powdered Toast Man
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
All of this.
I used to use Schallers but I got tired of that nut working itself loose and the "U" of the clip rotating itself around on the strap.
Switched to Dunlops about a decade ago and love them. I have never had one fail and I'm still using the first set I purchased years ago. I should note that I'm a pretty active player on stage (not a statue guitarist) so their limits HAVE been tested.
All of this.
I used to use Schallers but I got tired of that nut working itself loose and the "U" of the clip rotating itself around on the strap.
Switched to Dunlops about a decade ago and love them. I have never had one fail and I'm still using the first set I purchased years ago. I should note that I'm a pretty active player on stage (not a statue guitarist) so their limits HAVE been tested.
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Jay 77
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
Schallers all the way. Put them on every guitar and strap you can, and there's no issue with compatibility. They're rock solid. Love 'em.
Schallers all the way. Put them on every guitar and strap you can, and there's no issue with compatibility. They're rock solid. Love 'em.
jumble jumble
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
This is the only time I've had a strap drop a guitar in 20 years, and that includes quite a lot of straps just hanging off of studs in the normal way.
At that point I went to DiMarzio because hey, you're just screwing the strap into the body. Couldn't be safer.
Aesthetically, though, they're not perfect, and so when I want a more traditional look I now go with the Dunlop ones. I just can't trust Schaller any more after that.
This happened to me without me knowing, and then the pin failed, and the guitar dropped - needless to say it landed on a metal footswitch and dinged up real bad.
This is the only time I've had a strap drop a guitar in 20 years, and that includes quite a lot of straps just hanging off of studs in the normal way.
At that point I went to DiMarzio because hey, you're just screwing the strap into the body. Couldn't be safer.
Aesthetically, though, they're not perfect, and so when I want a more traditional look I now go with the Dunlop ones. I just can't trust Schaller any more after that.
Fender_Punk
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
Nothing wrong with the Dunlops IMO, but I prefer the Schaller strap locks. I don't think one is one is better than the other, I just have a preference for Schaller's design.
Nothing wrong with the Dunlops IMO, but I prefer the Schaller strap locks. I don't think one is one is better than the other, I just have a preference for Schaller's design.
Edgecrusher
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
The first guitar i ever bought had schallers on it. Since then I always use schallers. To me its just a given to install them when i get a new guitar. I bought a guitar that had the dunlops already on it nothing bad to say about them but just didnt fit with the rest of my guitars.
The first guitar i ever bought had schallers on it. Since then I always use schallers. To me its just a given to install them when i get a new guitar. I bought a guitar that had the dunlops already on it nothing bad to say about them but just didnt fit with the rest of my guitars.
jcthejester13
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
I have Dunlops on all of my guitars with the exception of my acoustics and the Gretsch.
I have no once had a problem with them and they have never failed me. To me I see no reason to use any other type of straplock.
I have Dunlops on all of my guitars with the exception of my acoustics and the Gretsch.
I have no once had a problem with them and they have never failed me. To me I see no reason to use any other type of straplock.
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H8Red442
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Re: Straplocks: Dunlop VS. Schaller
Take a drum stick and ream the holes in the strap and you can get the fat pin from the Schallers in there. You need to mush the sides down with that washer that comes with it but its secure once on there.
Take a drum stick and ream the holes in the strap and you can get the fat pin from the Schallers in there. You need to mush the sides down with that washer that comes with it but its secure once on there.
