Yngwiestein
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
I think that Kissinger dude from Sepultura plays teles and strats.
I think that Kissinger dude from Sepultura plays teles and strats.
Stratocasters just don't do metal!
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Mr 9finger
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
Probably a poor example, but didn't Hammett use a cream ESP 400 series for awhile w/ EMG SA's in it?
Probably a poor example, but didn't Hammett use a cream ESP 400 series for awhile w/ EMG SA's in it?
El Dunco
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Mr 9finger
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
Yeah, I knew I've seen Kirk w/ a Strat before. IIRC, he used to use Vintage strats in the studio a lot as well.
Yeah, I knew I've seen Kirk w/ a Strat before. IIRC, he used to use Vintage strats in the studio a lot as well.
Johtosotku
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
I've got most of my greatest metal tones with a strat with a low output true single coil. Generally considered I'd think that it's silly to say a guitar can't do metal - it's more that an amp can't do metal. And most of those amps that aren't generally considered as metal amps can do it very very well with a suitable dirt pedal in front.
I've got most of my greatest metal tones with a strat with a low output true single coil. Generally considered I'd think that it's silly to say a guitar can't do metal - it's more that an amp can't do metal. And most of those amps that aren't generally considered as metal amps can do it very very well with a suitable dirt pedal in front.
JB_From_Hell
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
I agree with everything you said, and really think that "this piece of gear won't do this" is more often user error than anything to do with the equipment.
I agree with everything you said, and really think that "this piece of gear won't do this" is more often user error than anything to do with the equipment.
Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
Heh, I ain't disputing that.
A heavy amp and a 6 string guitar with low output single coils will still sound heavier than an 8 string put through a JC-120 (clean of course, no amp modelers/pedals in it).
Sure enough, it still wont sound as heavy as a humbucking super strat beast... but both sound heavier.. one just a tad heavier
I just hate the god**** hum and noise when using high gain to try and get metal tones from low output single coil pickups:laugh2:
Heh, I ain't disputing that.
A heavy amp and a 6 string guitar with low output single coils will still sound heavier than an 8 string put through a JC-120 (clean of course, no amp modelers/pedals in it).
Sure enough, it still wont sound as heavy as a humbucking super strat beast... but both sound heavier.. one just a tad heavier
I just hate the god**** hum and noise when using high gain to try and get metal tones from low output single coil pickups:laugh2:
Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
If anything, record one guitar part with a bucker loaded guitar, double track with a single coil guitar, and it can sound mean as hell.
If anything, record one guitar part with a bucker loaded guitar, double track with a single coil guitar, and it can sound mean as hell.
Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
Here are the rules... no pedals allowed, you have to rely on the gain on tap in the vintage amp itself:laugh2:
Here are the rules... no pedals allowed, you have to rely on the gain on tap in the vintage amp itself:laugh2:
El Dunco
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ex-250
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
yeah. i was watching a bunch of paul gilbert videos the other day, and he was doing a bunch of sabbath & priest covers with a danelectro. and it sounded pretty good, too
yeah. i was watching a bunch of paul gilbert videos the other day, and he was doing a bunch of sabbath & priest covers with a danelectro. and it sounded pretty good, too
Petrovsk Mizinski
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jerryjg
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
arent you the same guy who insists a Twin Reverb can also do metal?
Quote me on this forevermore.
1) a stock strat cannot do metal in the smost strict definiton of metal
2) a 335 cannot do metal ( or at the very least SHOULD not do metal)
A Fender Amp CANNOT do metal ( pedals or no).
Get the right tools , come back and lets talk. Good on ya for tryin to make do..but you cant pay with the big dogs untill you are on the same porch( so to speak)
if you point to one artist who pulled it off, I would say that 50 more pulled it off more successefully with the right tools.
Thank you.
arent you the same guy who insists a Twin Reverb can also do metal?
Quote me on this forevermore.
1) a stock strat cannot do metal in the smost strict definiton of metal
2) a 335 cannot do metal ( or at the very least SHOULD not do metal)
A Fender Amp CANNOT do metal ( pedals or no).
Get the right tools , come back and lets talk. Good on ya for tryin to make do..but you cant pay with the big dogs untill you are on the same porch( so to speak)
if you point to one artist who pulled it off, I would say that 50 more pulled it off more successefully with the right tools.
Thank you.
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El Dunco
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
Turned out pretty good.
For your information I have plenty of guitars and amps at my disposal, many that are within the leagues of the 'porch dogs'.
But we'll see. Does a stock strat cut it as a metal guitar?
I don't remember insisting anything. I once made a thread in tips and clips with a Twin doing exactly that... Metal in the most strict definition of metal.
Turned out pretty good.
For your information I have plenty of guitars and amps at my disposal, many that are within the leagues of the 'porch dogs'.
But we'll see. Does a stock strat cut it as a metal guitar?
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
I reckon a stock strat can do metal.
You just need to use excess amounts of threshold on the noise gate to cut down the noise to bearable levels, lol!
I reckon a stock strat can do metal.
You just need to use excess amounts of threshold on the noise gate to cut down the noise to bearable levels, lol!
Imp
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
if a good metal player picks up a strat and plays metal on it through a metal-capable amp, you will hear metal.
it's playing technique and the amp, unfortunately most young metal fans underestimate the importance of both, in my experience of playing in bands...
if a good metal player picks up a strat and plays metal on it through a metal-capable amp, you will hear metal.
it's playing technique and the amp, unfortunately most young metal fans underestimate the importance of both, in my experience of playing in bands...
El Dunco
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Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
By the way, I've done the clip. I just improvised some stuff.
No-one said I couldn't use a 4x12 though
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=658245&songID=6997910
Precisely!
By the way, I've done the clip. I just improvised some stuff.
No-one said I couldn't use a 4x12 though
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=658245&songID=6997910
ex-250
Riffologist Extraordinaire
Re: Stratocasters just don't do metal!
incorrect on that one (and i can hardly believe it myself)...
i played through a fender once that sounded great for metal. no idea what model it was, but it was badass. all i remember is that you could switch the wattage on it between like 3 things
incorrect on that one (and i can hardly believe it myself)...
i played through a fender once that sounded great for metal. no idea what model it was, but it was badass. all i remember is that you could switch the wattage on it between like 3 things
