String Trees, Or No?
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Snake Aces
Singlecut Slut
Re: String Trees, Or No?
This is one of my angled Warmoth necks where I do not use them, it's a 13° angle IIRC:
This is one of my angled Warmoth necks where I do not use them, it's a 13° angle IIRC:
Re: String Trees, Or No?
"The action is low perfect in my opinion"....his words...not mine. Sorry some people feel the need to bloviate to answer a simple direct question. If he indicated there were tone problems then we could help address those.
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: String Trees, Or No?
Bull**** thread.
The OP didn't have the staggered tuners needed for string-tree-less runs. Used neck, fine, he got screwed. Except that he knew about it and decided not to post it, wasting everybody's time.
Without fail the next dohfoos comes in and says "string trees not needed because you have staggered tuners", although the OP obviously does not. It isn't clear who that person is replying to since there's no reply mark and in between somebody else did post pictures of staggered tuners.
If that had been an actual n00b in the OP there could have been wasted money or a broken gig.
Bull**** thread.
The OP didn't have the staggered tuners needed for string-tree-less runs. Used neck, fine, he got screwed. Except that he knew about it and decided not to post it, wasting everybody's time.
Without fail the next dohfoos comes in and says "string trees not needed because you have staggered tuners", although the OP obviously does not. It isn't clear who that person is replying to since there's no reply mark and in between somebody else did post pictures of staggered tuners.
If that had been an actual n00b in the OP there could have been wasted money or a broken gig.
Kais
New member
Re: String Trees, Or No?
What the hell are you saying? Wasn't a used neck, bought it brand new. I never said I have staggered tuners or not.
That's a bull**** reply.
What the hell are you saying? Wasn't a used neck, bought it brand new. I never said I have staggered tuners or not.
That's a bull**** reply.
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: String Trees, Or No?
Didn't you just say (late in the thread) that you knew about the replacement of staggered tuners with non-staggered ones? That would have been valuable information to give in the OP, so that the usual idiots don't descent on us without outlandish replies. It's getting really annoying. Not you, them. But you shouldn't have done that, either.
Didn't you just say (late in the thread) that you knew about the replacement of staggered tuners with non-staggered ones? That would have been valuable information to give in the OP, so that the usual idiots don't descent on us without outlandish replies. It's getting really annoying. Not you, them. But you shouldn't have done that, either.
Kais
New member
Re: String Trees, Or No?
I mentioned those tuners were from another neck that had 2 string trees. I've never dealt with these kinds of issues before, so it would've have been helpful if someone asked me all the details so I would've known exactly what details to post. We're kind of beating a dead horse here, and some members have given very good and detailed responses.
I mentioned those tuners were from another neck that had 2 string trees. I've never dealt with these kinds of issues before, so it would've have been helpful if someone asked me all the details so I would've known exactly what details to post. We're kind of beating a dead horse here, and some members have given very good and detailed responses.
Rand-O-Monium
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Re: String Trees, Or No?
I like the feel they impart,personally.
Had an old Strat w/Sperzels when they first came out,too much tension on the strings for me.
I like the feel they impart,personally.
Had an old Strat w/Sperzels when they first came out,too much tension on the strings for me.
KeeperOS
New member
Re: String Trees, Or No?
(Slight) Necrothread.
Has been answered to exhaustion and there are valid points on both camps.
Personally, I only have a single Strat, used to have string trees but were removed when I installed (staggered) Sperzels in it. I can say with certainty that the tuning stability improved with pretty heavy trem use (not Floyd Rose heavy but more than a flutter) but that could have been the tuners themselves. I did not notice any loss in tone, quite the opposite in fact, but that again could have been the heavier tuners.
FWIW, I have thee more guitars with straight headstocks, two Grover Jackson era Washburn Chicago Custom Shop MGs (an MG-122 and an MG-100) as well as a USA Custom Shop Parker Mojo Fly Single Cut, none of which had string trees installed by their respective custom shops.
Washburn did use staggered Gotoh locking tuners (they lock at the post) while Parker is an odd one, they used Sperzels but not staggered. Instead they took 6 High-E tuners (the lowest ones) and used them for all 6 strings, resulting in barely any string angle from the nut to the tuners at all.
Never had tuning issues with it, quite the contrary, it's been rock solid, but it does have graphite rods in the neck, Parker's Carbon/Glass fiber fretboard and a TOM bridge with a tailpiece.
The acoustic tone is a bit thin compared to my other guitars but then again it is a Parker i.e. half the thickness of my other guitars (just 5 lbs).
(Slight) Necrothread.
Has been answered to exhaustion and there are valid points on both camps.
Personally, I only have a single Strat, used to have string trees but were removed when I installed (staggered) Sperzels in it. I can say with certainty that the tuning stability improved with pretty heavy trem use (not Floyd Rose heavy but more than a flutter) but that could have been the tuners themselves. I did not notice any loss in tone, quite the opposite in fact, but that again could have been the heavier tuners.
FWIW, I have thee more guitars with straight headstocks, two Grover Jackson era Washburn Chicago Custom Shop MGs (an MG-122 and an MG-100) as well as a USA Custom Shop Parker Mojo Fly Single Cut, none of which had string trees installed by their respective custom shops.
Washburn did use staggered Gotoh locking tuners (they lock at the post) while Parker is an odd one, they used Sperzels but not staggered. Instead they took 6 High-E tuners (the lowest ones) and used them for all 6 strings, resulting in barely any string angle from the nut to the tuners at all.
Never had tuning issues with it, quite the contrary, it's been rock solid, but it does have graphite rods in the neck, Parker's Carbon/Glass fiber fretboard and a TOM bridge with a tailpiece.
The acoustic tone is a bit thin compared to my other guitars but then again it is a Parker i.e. half the thickness of my other guitars (just 5 lbs).
