Suhr Aldrich is in! My thoughts

Rex_Rocker

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To sum it up: It's not what I expected.

I got the Suhr Aldrich today to drop in my Gibson Les Paul Tribute. I had a JB in it that I liked, but there was room for improvement. I thought it was a bit thin on that particular guitar compared to my other two. That Les Paul is really tight and aggressive-sounding. It has a Maple neck a lightweight chambered body, and an aluminum bridge and tailpiece. But most importantly, the bridge pickup is closer to the bridge itself than on my other two guitars. I did like the JB in there, honestly, so there were some qualities that I wanted to keep. I just wanted something slightly more adequate for that particular guitar.

So I did my research and found the Aldrich. It's 17.5K and it runs on A5. Suhr calls the magnet "Alnico 5 Special" (more on that later), but given the specs, I expected it to be sort of a hotter, fatter JB. Well, it is fatter for sure. But it's certainly not hotter at all. That really caught me off guard.

It has a really cool thing going on in the lows where it's super throaty. I feel that's like that's one defining feature of the pickup. The mids are less cloudy than the JB, and the high-end is slightly more active and open too. It feels more attacky and aggressive and throatier and fuller. So is it bassier and trebler than the JB? Well, yeah, but it's by no means similar to the Custom. It sounds more like an opened up JB than it resembles anything from the Custom family. If I really had to say, though, the EQ is sorta like you took a JB and nudged it just a tad towards the EQ of the Custom 5. But luckily, not a lot, since I don't like the C5. The Aldirch, though, is its own thing. It has a very defined identity, I feel, that to me sounds reminiscent of elements of the JB, but that you wouldn't mistake for a 1:1 clone.

But the output is surprisingly less than the JB! It's very close to what the AT-1 is in another guitar, except the AT-1 has the airbucker thing, and I don't think the Aldrich runs on any of that sort of wizardry. I read conflicting reviews online on wether it was actually hotter or not before I got it. Some said it isn't, some say it is. Logic would have me believe that it must be, but now I know for sure it isn't. It might have to do with that "special" Alnico 5.

Not gonna lie, that turned me off at first, but the more I kept comparing it to my LTD with the Antiquity JB, the more I liked it once I raised the gain a little to compensate for the weaker output. It's different while still having some traits that I like about the JB like the upper mid aggression. The Aldrich sounds more lively and less confused in the core mids, but that might also be coming from that guitar which, honestly, is a tone monster and makes everything sound so immediate and tight. Plus the upside is since I recently started using the EVH model on my HX Stomp, I have more room to play with the gain knob higher up with a lower output pickup.

So I'll keep playing it to let it sink in before I take a decision. But at least, I'm glad I tried a pickup I have been wanting to for ages.

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Awesome! Glad your first impressions are positive. Time will tell if it has holding power against your setup, LOL! The Aldrich is one of my favorites.

To reiterate what has been said a million times...nothing sounds exactly like a JB. But I tend to agree with your assessment.

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Awesome! Glad your first impressions are positive. Time will tell if it has holding power against your setup, LOL! The Aldrich is one of my favorites.

To reiterate what has been said a million times...nothing sounds exactly like a JB. But I tend to agree with your assessment.

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Yeah! The voicing of the pickup itself is fantastic. It definitely has a cool "refined" vibe. I was just thrown off by the output thing, but I just saw Fluff's review, and he mentions the exact same thing.
 
Not apples to apples, but I recorded this quick clip. First is the LP with the Aldrich, then my LTD EC-400VF with a Duncan Antiquity JB: CLIP

Keep in mind the LP is naturally tight and aggressive and the LTD is naturally fat and round. But I think it's pretty evident that the mids in the Aldrich/Les Paul are less stuffy.

Also, this is what the guitar straight in look like. Well, almost straight in. I use my 18V TS808 turned off as a buffer. You can tell that even the Ant JB with its degaussed magnet is way hotter than the Aldrich.

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I hear that, the JB has a general thickness in the mids but I could see it described as more "stuffy" The Les Paul definitely has attack, maybe that fact makes it seem hotter to me when I listen, maybe just because the LTD sounds warmer on top and fatter in the low end, maybe the degaussed character. Love both though and one thing's for certain...that riff is kickass!
 
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I hear that, the JB has a general thickness in the mids but I could see it described as more "stuffy" The Les Paul definitely has attack, maybe that fact makes it seem hotter to me when I listen, maybe just because the LTD sounds warmer on top and fatter in the low end, maybe the degaussed character. Love both though and one thing's for certain...that riff is kickass!
Thanks for listening!

Yeah, I like both. That Ant JB in that particular guitar is kind of a good pairing and is kind of what led me to swap pickups in my LP in the first place. The EC with the Ant just killed the LP with the regular JB. But I feel like the LP with the Aldrich now throws more of a fight at it.

What's funny about the Aldrich is even if it's lower output, it doesn't sound dry and whimpy like many lower output pickups do. Plus it takes gain like a champ. It's a cool pickup for sure.
 
Maybe adjust the Aldrich a little closer to the strings? Are you running the same gauge strings on both guitars?

I went straight from a JB to an Aldrich in my Rhoads and don't remember thinking it was significantly different in output. Even had a Distortion and Black Winter in it before that, as well as an EMTY Blackout. The Aldrich held its own in that guitar!

It was clearer than the JB, but plenty "hot". Surprised to see signals that different, to be honest!
 
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Maybe adjust the Aldrich a little closer to the strings? Are you running the same gauge strings on both guitars?

I went straight from a JB to an Aldrich in my Rhoads and don't remember thinking it was significantly different in output. Even had a Distortion and Black Winter in it before that, as well as an EMTY Blackout. The Aldrich held its own in that guitar!

It was clearer than the JB, but plenty "hot". Surprised to see signals that different, to be honest!
Yep, 11-56 on both. Same action height and distance from the strings on both guitars as well.

The Aldrich has a thing where it doesn't feel dry or whimpy even if it's not as hot. Listen to the clip I posted above. Even if there's a big difference in output, the Aldrich doesn't sound immediately weaker. It just feels clearer and more immediate. At least IMO. I like that about it, honestly.

One thing that is different on both guitars that definitely affects how much output pickups put out is the bridge pickup is closer to the bridge on the Les Paul. That means that pickups in it are "more bridgey", for a lack of a better term. That means tighter, more aggressive, more biting (I love that), but also quieter (I hate that) and not as full. So that adds to the difference.
 
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Interesting. Did you try adjusting the Aldrich a tad bit closer, just for fun, to see how the response changes?

I could see it working really well in an LP. Glad you're digging it so far!
 
Interesting. Did you try adjusting the Aldrich a tad bit closer, just for fun, to see how the response changes?

I could see it working really well in an LP. Glad you're digging it so far!
Yes! I tried raising it a bit. That's the first thing I did when first I saw the DI's and actually realized it was way lower output than even the Ant JB. The output didn't dramatically increase. It did a little bit, but it also became a bit fatter than I was liking, so back it went. It's 2.75mm away from the last string, 2.5mm from the first string without any note being fretted.

On the topic of the guitar's bridge position being kinda quiet, before the Aldrich, the regular production JB with the fully charged magnet was a tiny bit lower output than the Ant JB with the degaussed magnet in the LTD. So part of it is the Aldrich not being as loud, part of it is the nature of this Les Paul. That's why I wanted a fatter, louder pickup. What I really love about the guitar is it sounds so focused, tight, and aggressive. But it does seem to work a tad better with fatter louder pickups thatn my other guitars. I didn't get a louder pickup with the Aldrich, but I did get a good-sounding fat one. Still gotta spend some more time with it to see if it will stay, but so far, I'm enjoying it.
 
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My experience with the Aldrich from many moons ago... was that it was a dryer, tighter and somewhat darker JB type. Didn't last for me. But no JB type has lol.
 
My experience with the Aldrich from many moons ago... was that it was a dryer, tighter and somewhat darker JB type. Didn't last for me. But no JB type has lol.

You pretty much hit it on the head. But, yeah, if you're not a "JB" fan, then the Aldrich isn't going to do much for you, ha ha! Suhr was definitely going for JB vibes with the SSH+/Aldrich (the Aldrich is just an overwound SSH+).

I think pickups like the PATB-1, the Alt 8, and the DiMarzio AT-1 are great alternatives for people looking for the output, dynamics, soloing capability, and great harmonic character of the JB, but wanting something fairly distinct from the typical "JB" sound.
 
I don't find it darker, personally. Fatter, yes. But I actually find the top-end more detailed and/or aggressive, depending on how you see it. I guess since it's fatter, the focus is a bit less on the upper mids, though. Seems like the high mid spike is shifted a bit higher up in the spectrum where it's not as obnoxious too, I guess.
 
They're both awful close. But the Aldrich seemed to have a teensy bit more girth. Teensy.
Yeah, my goal was a bit to bridge the gap between both guitars. I wanted to fatten up this Les Paul a tad, because the regular JB in the LP sounded thin compared to the Ant JB in the EC. I overall thought the EC sounded better, so I thought the LP needed something fatter.
 
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Yeah I had this guitar that I put an Aldrich in and then a JB right after.

I preferred the JB in there, but your observations are 100% the same as mine

John Suhr said that the Aldrich was darker than the SSH+ and the local Suhr dealer and I both disagreed with that. The SSH+ is actually a very polite pickup (but still has its balls), while the Aldrich is very very aggressive and crisp.
 
One of the big debates with JB type pickups is if they are actually bright. The brightness you hear in a JB is the upper mids, not the treble. I assume Aldriches are the same way
 
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