Suhr silent single coil system...
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brattmoore
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Re: Suhr silent single coil system...
It's not cheap !!! I'm so happy with my SD Classic Stack Plus set that I don't think that I'll ever need the SSC system.
It's not cheap !!! I'm so happy with my SD Classic Stack Plus set that I don't think that I'll ever need the SSC system.
Zhangliqun
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Re: Suhr silent single coil system...
How much is it?
How much is it?
brattmoore
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259 usd for the SSC backplate !!!
259 usd for the SSC backplate !!!
Zhangliqun
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Re: Suhr silent single coil system...
Even if it's 75% noise free, it's a big improvement.
Even if it's 75% noise free, it's a big improvement.
frankfalbo
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Seems like a good idea, I just can't get past that price, and the look of the oversized trem cavity cover. There are other less expensive ways to reduce hum that I think are valid, including an actual dummy coil inside the cavity. I think it's perfect for someone who doesn't want to modify their guitar or replace their pickups.
Seems like a good idea, I just can't get past that price, and the look of the oversized trem cavity cover. There are other less expensive ways to reduce hum that I think are valid, including an actual dummy coil inside the cavity. I think it's perfect for someone who doesn't want to modify their guitar or replace their pickups.
MDS
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I haven't used it in the flesh, but the word from some friends who have heard is that it is VERY good. The price is really high...I'd love to give it a whirl, but if the new Stack Pluses are as good as everyone says they are maybe thats the way to go...
I haven't used it in the flesh, but the word from some friends who have heard is that it is VERY good. The price is really high...I'd love to give it a whirl, but if the new Stack Pluses are as good as everyone says they are maybe thats the way to go...
frankfalbo
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Yeah I mean if you are already in love with your single coils, then the price is comparable to a complete set of Stack Plus'. Also, what happens if you have a RWRP middle single?
Yeah I mean if you are already in love with your single coils, then the price is comparable to a complete set of Stack Plus'. Also, what happens if you have a RWRP middle single?
Zhangliqun
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Re: Suhr silent single coil system...
Few traditional Strats or Strat clones DON'T have an RWRP middle, so they have probably taken that into account. I'll take a semi-educated guess and say it's a wiring scheme that involves the 5-way switch that reverses the "polarity" of the kit when you switch to middle alone.
Few traditional Strats or Strat clones DON'T have an RWRP middle, so they have probably taken that into account. I'll take a semi-educated guess and say it's a wiring scheme that involves the 5-way switch that reverses the "polarity" of the kit when you switch to middle alone.
Zhangliqun
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Re: Suhr silent single coil system...
But if you want something hotter than or otherwise just tonally different from a Stack Plus, unless Seymour starts putting out the Stack Plus in a wide variety of outputs and tones, you're out of luck. Whereas if this system works, you can use any true single coil you want.
msawitzke said:
But if you want something hotter than or otherwise just tonally different from a Stack Plus, unless Seymour starts putting out the Stack Plus in a wide variety of outputs and tones, you're out of luck. Whereas if this system works, you can use any true single coil you want.
frankfalbo
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True, and it would be cool to have available for things like the G&L singles (both ASATs and S500's) 1/4lbs, overwound singles, etc. All the tones that are uniquely single coil and NOT available from any stack or side-by-side. It might even be cool to use on a 2Hum guitar and engage it when you split the coils. But so far I'm satisfied with the minor reduction from things like shielding and RWRP. I guess what I'm saying is that for me personally, 60 cycle hum in my single coil guitars is not a $200+ problem.
True, and it would be cool to have available for things like the G&L singles (both ASATs and S500's) 1/4lbs, overwound singles, etc. All the tones that are uniquely single coil and NOT available from any stack or side-by-side. It might even be cool to use on a 2Hum guitar and engage it when you split the coils. But so far I'm satisfied with the minor reduction from things like shielding and RWRP. I guess what I'm saying is that for me personally, 60 cycle hum in my single coil guitars is not a $200+ problem.
Zhangliqun
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Except for occasional session work, hum isn't a big problem for me either because I don't play with a lot of gain on the Strat. But some gig environments are so bad that it would really come in handy.
Except for occasional session work, hum isn't a big problem for me either because I don't play with a lot of gain on the Strat. But some gig environments are so bad that it would really come in handy.
MattPete
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The problem with dummy coils is that they add resistance, which in turn changes the tone of the pickups. From my understanding (but I can't find the post anymore over at ampge), the Suhr system has very low resistance, yet still picks up the same amount of noise.
frankfalbo said:
The problem with dummy coils is that they add resistance, which in turn changes the tone of the pickups. From my understanding (but I can't find the post anymore over at ampge), the Suhr system has very low resistance, yet still picks up the same amount of noise.
CornBread
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$365.00
It really works and we cannot tell that it effects the true nature of the single coils at all on Kirk Fletchers Strat.
we were in The Cafe Boogaloo In Hermosa Beach Ca. testing the unit, the club has LOUD 60cycle interferance, the guitar was dead quiet and even Kirk claimed that the true single coil tone was untouched.
$365.00
It really works and we cannot tell that it effects the true nature of the single coils at all on Kirk Fletchers Strat.
we were in The Cafe Boogaloo In Hermosa Beach Ca. testing the unit, the club has LOUD 60cycle interferance, the guitar was dead quiet and even Kirk claimed that the true single coil tone was untouched.
ColonPowell
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The SUHR SSC kicks ass. I have it built into my Suhr Classic and it sounds
like a vintage strat, dead quiet. NO tone change, there's a push pull pot
so you can bypass the silent coil. Like U would ever want to. :no:
The SUHR SSC kicks ass. I have it built into my Suhr Classic and it sounds
like a vintage strat, dead quiet. NO tone change, there's a push pull pot
so you can bypass the silent coil. Like U would ever want to. :no:
Re: Suhr silent single coil system...
Thanks guys, Kirk has it in his Suhr guitars, T and S style, the built in option is more expensive only available on our guitars, not visible and works about 10% better at reducing the noise. Also the only option for a tele. The backplate is the answer for aftermarket guitars that use a trem.
Kirk is a freaking monster blues player if you guys ever get a chance you might see Mike Landau and Scott Henderson checking him out also, they love him and introduced me to him.
Here is a little demo
The backplate version is $259
http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/rc_bb.html
CornBread said:
Thanks guys, Kirk has it in his Suhr guitars, T and S style, the built in option is more expensive only available on our guitars, not visible and works about 10% better at reducing the noise. Also the only option for a tele. The backplate is the answer for aftermarket guitars that use a trem.
Kirk is a freaking monster blues player if you guys ever get a chance you might see Mike Landau and Scott Henderson checking him out also, they love him and introduced me to him.
Here is a little demo
The backplate version is $259
http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/rc_bb.html
beerdrinkingtech
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Hello,
Kirk is a friend of mine I meet him when he’s was with the T-Birds,
"Kirk Eli Fletcher" is so good that I swear, *God put him here* just to put the rest of the blues players in their place! ( As to bring all the hot ones back down to earth)
Kirk is very humble and extremely kind, when he plays it does not seem like it's the same guy playing at that level he plays.
Anybody else playing at the caliber Kirk plays at would be a __________ _______!!!! LOL!
I hear he has been more then happy with the Suhr System.
I remember when It was tested in a club called the Boogaloo, This club is said to be know among the musicians as being very noisy ( 60-cycle hum ) The buzz in there is so loud that it draws complaints from the audiences .
The report I got was the Suhr system was totally quiet and the single coils still sounded 100% true to life!
Kirk was very happy.
Best Regards
BDT
Hello,
Kirk is a friend of mine I meet him when he’s was with the T-Birds,
"Kirk Eli Fletcher" is so good that I swear, *God put him here* just to put the rest of the blues players in their place! ( As to bring all the hot ones back down to earth)
Kirk is very humble and extremely kind, when he plays it does not seem like it's the same guy playing at that level he plays.
Anybody else playing at the caliber Kirk plays at would be a __________ _______!!!! LOL!
I hear he has been more then happy with the Suhr System.
I remember when It was tested in a club called the Boogaloo, This club is said to be know among the musicians as being very noisy ( 60-cycle hum ) The buzz in there is so loud that it draws complaints from the audiences .
The report I got was the Suhr system was totally quiet and the single coils still sounded 100% true to life!
Kirk was very happy.
Best Regards
BDT
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tone4days
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Re: Suhr silent single coil system...
glad to see that there are more than one ways to skin a cat ... or dehum a strat ... kills me to say it, buit the clips i heard of the newest dimarzio noiseless singlecoils were also quite quite good
great time to be a guitarist, eh folks?
cheers
t4d
glad to see that there are more than one ways to skin a cat ... or dehum a strat ... kills me to say it, buit the clips i heard of the newest dimarzio noiseless singlecoils were also quite quite good
great time to be a guitarist, eh folks?
cheers
t4d
BlueGuitar
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Re: Suhr silent single coil system...
You would think so, but the kit is designed for use with a NWNP middle pickup, and that the dummy coil is always active. But I think you could wire it up to a 4 pole 5 position "megaswitch" to reverse the polarity for the middle pickup AND remove the dummy coil from the circuit for the #2 and #4 positions. No matter how good it works, I believe that you get better hum-cancelling "naturally" in the notched positions with a RWRP middle pickup.
Here is a link to the patent for the design. There are two trim pots on the circuit board. One of them will bypass the dummy coil and the other is like a tone control.
http://www.blueguitar.org/new/misc/patents/pat_20050204905_chiliachki.pdf
I bought a roll of 32GA magnet from Fry's ($3.99 for 400') and hand wound it as a dummy coil, but I haven't tried using it yet. With heavy gauge wire you can wind it by hand, and in whatever shape you need (like to fit under a tele bridge pickup).
Zhangliqun said:
You would think so, but the kit is designed for use with a NWNP middle pickup, and that the dummy coil is always active. But I think you could wire it up to a 4 pole 5 position "megaswitch" to reverse the polarity for the middle pickup AND remove the dummy coil from the circuit for the #2 and #4 positions. No matter how good it works, I believe that you get better hum-cancelling "naturally" in the notched positions with a RWRP middle pickup.
Here is a link to the patent for the design. There are two trim pots on the circuit board. One of them will bypass the dummy coil and the other is like a tone control.
http://www.blueguitar.org/new/misc/patents/pat_20050204905_chiliachki.pdf
I bought a roll of 32GA magnet from Fry's ($3.99 for 400') and hand wound it as a dummy coil, but I haven't tried using it yet. With heavy gauge wire you can wind it by hand, and in whatever shape you need (like to fit under a tele bridge pickup).
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