Tell Me About Ibanez Wizard Necks
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JOLLY
Super Simonologist
Re: Tell Me About Ibanez Wizard Necks
Wizard? All I gotta say is this http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=158146&songID=5976233 the hell with a neck man!!
Wizard? All I gotta say is this http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=158146&songID=5976233 the hell with a neck man!!
JustWendell
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Re: Tell Me About Ibanez Wizard Necks
http://www.jemsite.com/ibanez/
lots of good info about ibanez there. I think multiple pieces is done to keep the neck stiffer, especially since wizards are so thin anyways. My first electric was a crappy low end ibanez with a wizard II. Up until about a month ago I though I hated thin necks, but my cousin brought up his new baby, a j custom, which destroyed all those sentiments:
http://www.jemsite.com/ibanez/
lots of good info about ibanez there. I think multiple pieces is done to keep the neck stiffer, especially since wizards are so thin anyways. My first electric was a crappy low end ibanez with a wizard II. Up until about a month ago I though I hated thin necks, but my cousin brought up his new baby, a j custom, which destroyed all those sentiments:
danglybanger
ReelItInologist
Re: Tell Me About Ibanez Wizard Necks
don't tell alembic multiple pieces are bad...
don't tell alembic multiple pieces are bad...
RipShredScream
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Re: Tell Me About Ibanez Wizard Necks
has to do with stiffness/reliability.
A single piece of wood has the tendency to warp much easier, whereas with multiple pieces of different types of wood (or even the same wood with the grain running in opposite directions) the neck becomes much more stable, because if one piece of wood decides to start warping in a certain spot, the other laminated pieces (whose grains and physical charactistics are different) will lend that piece strength, and keep it from warping.
You may think a single piece would be stronger.. but it isn't. Just think of the woods like people. No one person can be good at everything, they have their own talents, strengths, and weaknesses. Wood is the same. There are certain places within a piece of wood that are weaker or more prone to warpage than others. By "teaming up" with other different pieces of wood, the strength is maximized and weakness minimized.
As far as sound, in theory a single piece of wood would sound better because it would vibrate more freely along with the strings. I dont think it makes a whole lot of difference, but a single very high quality piece of wood will probly sound better than multiple laminated pieces of very high quality wood.
has to do with stiffness/reliability.
A single piece of wood has the tendency to warp much easier, whereas with multiple pieces of different types of wood (or even the same wood with the grain running in opposite directions) the neck becomes much more stable, because if one piece of wood decides to start warping in a certain spot, the other laminated pieces (whose grains and physical charactistics are different) will lend that piece strength, and keep it from warping.
You may think a single piece would be stronger.. but it isn't. Just think of the woods like people. No one person can be good at everything, they have their own talents, strengths, and weaknesses. Wood is the same. There are certain places within a piece of wood that are weaker or more prone to warpage than others. By "teaming up" with other different pieces of wood, the strength is maximized and weakness minimized.
As far as sound, in theory a single piece of wood would sound better because it would vibrate more freely along with the strings. I dont think it makes a whole lot of difference, but a single very high quality piece of wood will probly sound better than multiple laminated pieces of very high quality wood.
Benjy_26
25's Nemesis
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This is dead-on.
Oddly enough though, my Hamer's 3 piece neck feels like it vibrates a whole lot more than my LP's one piece neck or even my Carvin's one piece neck (neck through construction).
This leads me to believe that if the laminations are done right and you get a good piece of wood, it'll probably sound good.
This is dead-on.
Oddly enough though, my Hamer's 3 piece neck feels like it vibrates a whole lot more than my LP's one piece neck or even my Carvin's one piece neck (neck through construction).
This leads me to believe that if the laminations are done right and you get a good piece of wood, it'll probably sound good.
Binnerscot
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Re: Tell Me About Ibanez Wizard Necks
I agree also. Hamer is one of those companies that really does a nice job with laminated necks. Jackson and Charvel quartersawn is my favorite for the one-piece neck.
I agree also. Hamer is one of those companies that really does a nice job with laminated necks. Jackson and Charvel quartersawn is my favorite for the one-piece neck.
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edsmith
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Ya got me dude :biglaugh: I was thinking of posting some of my clips to see what the forum brothers think would fit my playing style. Let me tell you that the biggest reason that I keep looking at Ibanez is because Paul Gilbert owns a billion of them. Yes, I give him that much respect.
Ya got me dude :biglaugh: I was thinking of posting some of my clips to see what the forum brothers think would fit my playing style. Let me tell you that the biggest reason that I keep looking at Ibanez is because Paul Gilbert owns a billion of them. Yes, I give him that much respect.
StrangeSound
GlossesForNothin'
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I always wondered myself why Ibanez uses 5-piece necks (now). I saw a 5000€ Ibanez and I fell off the chair when I read "5 piece maple neck"...but now I know why that is, but still
My RG has a 3 piece one.
@Ed: I think the PGM is great, perhaps you check out the Andy Timmons signature too but it's a totally different beast.
Edit: Oh, you've mentioned PG just as an example.
I always wondered myself why Ibanez uses 5-piece necks (now). I saw a 5000€ Ibanez and I fell off the chair when I read "5 piece maple neck"...but now I know why that is, but still
My RG has a 3 piece one.@Ed: I think the PGM is great, perhaps you check out the Andy Timmons signature too but it's a totally different beast.
Edit: Oh, you've mentioned PG just as an example.
edsmith
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Re: Tell Me About Ibanez Wizard Necks
This is going to sound weird to anyone who knows me but the last few days I have had this itch to buy one of those big Jazzy looking Gretsche semi hollow guitars. Paul has many eclectic looking guitars and a couple resemble a guitar like that. I also recall a couple of Eric Johnson videos where he was jamming out with something like that. The tone is amazing. I cannot say that I hate the look of those guitars any more. It's like a bug that bit me and I am suddenly mesmerized by the look and the tone.
I always wondered myself why Ibanez uses 5-piece necks (now). I saw a 5000€ Ibanez and I fell off the chair when I read "5 piece maple neck"...but now I know why that is, but still
@Ed: I think the PGM is great, perhaps you check out the Andy Timmons signature too but it's a totally different beast.
Edit: Oh, you've mentioned PG just as an example.
This is going to sound weird to anyone who knows me but the last few days I have had this itch to buy one of those big Jazzy looking Gretsche semi hollow guitars. Paul has many eclectic looking guitars and a couple resemble a guitar like that. I also recall a couple of Eric Johnson videos where he was jamming out with something like that. The tone is amazing. I cannot say that I hate the look of those guitars any more. It's like a bug that bit me and I am suddenly mesmerized by the look and the tone.
ibanezrocks
HardtailPisser
Re: Tell Me About Ibanez Wizard Necks
There's a difference between having parallel strips of different woods like the Ibanez neck and having a multipiece neck with a scarf joint. It's absolutely necessary for the stability of the neck and it doesn't save any costs of building.
There's a difference between having parallel strips of different woods like the Ibanez neck and having a multipiece neck with a scarf joint. It's absolutely necessary for the stability of the neck and it doesn't save any costs of building.
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alashredder
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They're great guitars. I only owned the mid to the higher priced models. The Korean Prestige's are pretty nice as well, but the ones I bought before were all J Craft Japanese made Prestiges. Good stuff..recommended!
They're great guitars. I only owned the mid to the higher priced models. The Korean Prestige's are pretty nice as well, but the ones I bought before were all J Craft Japanese made Prestiges. Good stuff..recommended!
