The best modeler is soon getting even better

[LtKojak]

Enter "The Wayfarer"

http://www.scuffhamamps.com/forum/3-news-a-info/5125-the-wayfarer

Everything you wanted in a BF and then some. Plus everything you loved 'bout S-Gear haven't been touched.

I just can't wait for the release. It's going to be a Summer full of Tone!

Enjoy the teaser! :wave:

 

[dominus]

Re: The best modeler is soon getting even better

Still needs a few more high gain amps. Everyone talks about how well Scuffham does hard rock. Some of us need more. Doesn't look like it has a pre-amp pedal section, but you can always add a third party overdrive before it in your plugin chain.

Since the convolver section allows you to add your own impulses, there's plenty of options out there, you just need to scour the net a little bit. You could also bypass that section and use something like Recabinet after it.

 

[DankStar]

Re: The best modeler is soon getting even better

cool - I thought the last scuffham amp sounded great. What's a BF?

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: The best modeler is soon getting even better

*Yawn*

More 1s and 0s!

 

[everdrone]

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glad they keep developing this stuff! lots to look forward to.

 

[uOpt]

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*Yawn*

More 1s and 0s!

+1

Oops another one

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: The best modeler is soon getting even better

Oh, no! Another tool that I can take or leave as I choose! Atrocity!

 

[LtKojak]

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What's a BF?

Black Face.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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Yet another digital software guitar amp for the tone deficient guitarist...

 

[JeffB]

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Ha..everyone is really taking their pot shots.

I have never heard of these amps. Seems like he is trying to reinvent a MESA, from the link.

 

[LtKojak]

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Seems like he is trying to reinvent a MESA, from the link.

Well, the gain structure of the different channels is very different than the Mesas, but the interface certainly's been inspired by, no doubt 'bout it.

 

[JOLLY]

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*Yawn*

More 1s and 0s!

Yet another digital software guitar amp for the tone deficient guitarist...

Idiotic statements like these always make me laugh.

 

[dominus]

Re: The best modeler is soon getting even better

Yet another digital software guitar amp for the tone deficient guitarist...

Idiotic statements like these always make me laugh.

I'm sure he meant it as an insult, but when taken literally:

Deficient - Not having enough of a specified quality or ingredient.

So, when someone buys a digital modeler, then they will have tone.

 

[FretFire]

Re: The best modeler is soon getting even better

The best part is when people that scoff at amp models complement your tone on a song that was recorded with nothing but digital amp models.

 

[uOpt]

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The best part is when people that scoff at amp models complement your tone on a song that was recorded with nothing but digital amp models.

Well, it's one thing to blast away with the dual recto, but another thing entirely to record it so that it sounds good.

And the other way round, too. Let's say you have a digital sound that is way ahead of what you can record with your physical rig. But now you want to use it without or with a mediocre PA in a small place. Getting that up to volume so that it properly smacks you isn't trivial at all.

In fact most people I see using sound chain complete digital setups (as in there's a line out that already all done with speaker simulator and room simulator) do indeed fall back to using a guitar rig. Which sound be bad because now you definitely have double speaker impact (simulated *and* real) and probably also double power amp sound shaping. For most home users that probably beats trying to use a full-range rig (aka PA or keyboard amp) by a mile, but it takes back some of the advantage of the successful modeling.

 

[DankStar]

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it all gets digitized in the end anyway. computers get the last laugh on all of us!

 

[ErikH]

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Wow, some of these comments are downright ignorant. Just because something doesn't work for one player doesn't mean it won't for another. Everyone has different tastes and requirements.

I have both a modeler (2 in fact) and a tube amp. I can't use the tube amp much these days so when I have time to play, the modeler gets the use. Would I like to use my tube amp more? Sure, but that doesn't make it the end of the world either.

When I was gigging and using my modeling amp, I had guys who told me all about their all-tube rigs and such (even multi-band events where I saw the tube snobbery first hand) come up to me after our set to complement me on my tone. A few even asked what tubes I was running. The looks I saw when I explained just a 12AX7 in starved plate mode and it's a modeler were priceless. It's like they couldn't understand. I'm not meaning to toot my own horn here but the way I see it, if the player knows how to dial the thing in and get a good sound out of it, who the hell cares if it's tube, solid-state or modeling. Good tone is good tone.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

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it all gets digitized in the end anyway. computers get the last laugh on all of us!

That would be SkyNet, actually .... =p

 

[everdrone]

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though unconventional, each modeler has its virtuous strengths and differences completely different then the plugNplay-tubeamp, and I am digging to get to the bottom of all of it :banana:

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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In fact most people I see using sound chain complete digital setups (as in there's a line out that already all done with speaker simulator and room simulator) do indeed fall back to using a guitar rig. Which sound be bad because now you definitely have double speaker impact (simulated *and* real) and probably also double power amp sound shaping. For most home users that probably beats trying to use a full-range rig (aka PA or keyboard amp) by a mile, but it takes back some of the advantage of the successful modeling.

A lot of modeling rigs let you bypass the cabinet emulation. This is, as you can imagine, usually a good thing. However, when I was using a Vox ToneLab with a Marshall half-stack, I sometimes found I liked one or two of the cabinet emulations better than the bypassed setting, and better than the Marshall straight-up with no ToneLab in the mix. I didn't want to, but I did.

Some modelers also let you control the amount of "workout" you give the power amp section of the model. On a minimum or bypassed setting, the modeled power amp behaves very linearly, with little coloration.