The Clapton "Layla" tone.
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Johnny the Kid
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Honestly, it's gonna be pretty hard to do with that setup. You'd be better off picking up a used Strat or strat knockoff.
Honestly, it's gonna be pretty hard to do with that setup. You'd be better off picking up a used Strat or strat knockoff.
Edgecrusher
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Choose which is more important the clapton tone or the metal tone. I can get you a set up that will do one great and the other ok-ish. But i cant get both great. If you had a HSS set up I could do it, but HH is hard and im going to guess its also 24 frets which makes it harder.
So which tone is more important to you? and what is your amp set up?
Choose which is more important the clapton tone or the metal tone. I can get you a set up that will do one great and the other ok-ish. But i cant get both great. If you had a HSS set up I could do it, but HH is hard and im going to guess its also 24 frets which makes it harder.
So which tone is more important to you? and what is your amp set up?
Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
It would be easier to metalize the Clapton tone, than to Claptonize the metal tone.
It would be easier to metalize the Clapton tone, than to Claptonize the metal tone.
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Funkfingers
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Never let it be forgotten that a good deal of the "Layla tone" - song and album - came from Duane Allman.
Never let it be forgotten that a good deal of the "Layla tone" - song and album - came from Duane Allman.
Edgecrusher
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
In a 24 fret H+H jackson the clapton tone is always going to be a serious compromise. Where you can do the metal tone without any compromises.
Setting that guitar up for clapton tone would take some finagling...
In a 24 fret H+H jackson the clapton tone is always going to be a serious compromise. Where you can do the metal tone without any compromises.
Setting that guitar up for clapton tone would take some finagling...
Johnny the Kid
Shaunofthedeadologist
Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Absolutely, but if he has to sacrifice on one, it would be easier to sacrifice on the metal side and just use some kind of gain pedal to make up for it than it would be to sacrifice on the Clapton side.
Or he could pickup an ESP Strat copy with a maple board and SSS pickups for $350. Probably $200 if he can find one used.
Absolutely, but if he has to sacrifice on one, it would be easier to sacrifice on the metal side and just use some kind of gain pedal to make up for it than it would be to sacrifice on the Clapton side.
Or he could pickup an ESP Strat copy with a maple board and SSS pickups for $350. Probably $200 if he can find one used.
Edgecrusher
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Gain isnt what he will be missing. The physical location of the coils is wrong
Its as silly as the guys trying to make their strats sound like les pauls... to get a good vintage strat tone you need atleast a vintage style trem with vintage style pups in a 22 or 21 fret spacing... anything else is going to have something missing
Gain isnt what he will be missing. The physical location of the coils is wrong
Its as silly as the guys trying to make their strats sound like les pauls... to get a good vintage strat tone you need atleast a vintage style trem with vintage style pups in a 22 or 21 fret spacing... anything else is going to have something missing
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dr.barlo
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Right on!
And them small tweed combos...
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Right on!
And them small tweed combos...
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
I actually got pretty close with a special Overdrive pedal yesterday. (N-audio Firesound, it has swiches to tweak the mid frequencies) No coil tap. I just want to know what humbucker sounds great as a bucker, but also when split sounds like a TRUE single coil.
p.s I have no real guitar amp right now, but will be making something special next month. (based on the 18w Marshall, but with WAY more preamp tubes and 3 channels)
I actually got pretty close with a special Overdrive pedal yesterday. (N-audio Firesound, it has swiches to tweak the mid frequencies) No coil tap. I just want to know what humbucker sounds great as a bucker, but also when split sounds like a TRUE single coil.
p.s I have no real guitar amp right now, but will be making something special next month. (based on the 18w Marshall, but with WAY more preamp tubes and 3 channels)
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Funkfingers
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Don't we all, ducky. :fingersx:
Strictly speaking, a split humbucker is a true single coil, just not in the commonly understood sense of a Fender style fibreboard and rod magnets pickup.
A humbucker-equiped guitar is going to get pretty close to some of the "Layla" album sounds because many of them were created using a Gibson Les Paul Standard.
Don't we all, ducky. :fingersx:
Strictly speaking, a split humbucker is a true single coil, just not in the commonly understood sense of a Fender style fibreboard and rod magnets pickup.
A humbucker-equiped guitar is going to get pretty close to some of the "Layla" album sounds because many of them were created using a Gibson Les Paul Standard.
Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Also I might just build a parts strat. I can get one for less than 200 eur. then a spray paint of Oly White Nitrucelulose (x2) and we're looking at 250 eur with the stock pickups. Getting some noiseless single coils wouldn't be a problem. It's just a matter of calculation now
Also I might just build a parts strat. I can get one for less than 200 eur. then a spray paint of Oly White Nitrucelulose (x2) and we're looking at 250 eur with the stock pickups. Getting some noiseless single coils wouldn't be a problem. It's just a matter of calculation now
Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
http://www.kitbuiltguitars.co.uk/guitarkits/strat-kit.html can be had for ~90 eur. I have a flying V from those guys, and the build/material quality is on par with a Mex Fender. (Weird, right?) I just might get that, floyd it and seymorize it, also add that mid boost thingy Clapton himself has in his guitar. Wouldn't cost more than 300 eur total.
http://www.kitbuiltguitars.co.uk/guitarkits/strat-kit.html can be had for ~90 eur. I have a flying V from those guys, and the build/material quality is on par with a Mex Fender. (Weird, right?) I just might get that, floyd it and seymorize it, also add that mid boost thingy Clapton himself has in his guitar. Wouldn't cost more than 300 eur total.
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Funkfingers
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
If you are in the UK, I may be able to assist with this. :deal:
If you are in the UK, I may be able to assist with this. :deal:
dr.barlo
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Re: The Clapton "Layla" tone.
Custom X (X=^2, 5, ferrum - ceramic, 8, 6, unoriented, ...) has a ~7-7.50K AWG #43 slug coil. Some of the real fancy tele broadcaster lead pickups are wound somewhat similar. E.g. my Tele JD lead measures 7.8K with that wire (maybe different insulation... but anyways...). So Custom variants will get you into the real deal single coil tone when split.
And it's HB tone is quite alright.
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Custom X (X=^2, 5, ferrum - ceramic, 8, 6, unoriented, ...) has a ~7-7.50K AWG #43 slug coil. Some of the real fancy tele broadcaster lead pickups are wound somewhat similar. E.g. my Tele JD lead measures 7.8K with that wire (maybe different insulation... but anyways...). So Custom variants will get you into the real deal single coil tone when split.
And it's HB tone is quite alright.
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