'The Paul' is coming back

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The specs are also not necessarily apples to apples either right? 2019 studios have a bound neck and earlier don’t, correct? Not sure if there are any other differences.

The 2018 studios had bound necks as well.
 
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No, that's not precise. What's precise is that YOU paid less for a 2013 LP Traditional than the advertised price (MAP) of a 2019 LP Studio.

What makes you so sure I did not pay MAP price?

I didn't mention whom I purchased my guitar from, but that would be Amazon.com.

And IIRC, Guitar Center et al had them for the same price (but I chose Amazon)

Is not the price I paid also MAP price?

As an aside, speaking for myself, I call any online retailer price "street" price. Nor do I differentiate between brick and mortar and online with the "street" price terminology.
 
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What makes you so sure I did not pay MAP price?

I didn't mention whom I purchased my guitar from, but that would be Amazon.com

Is not the price I paid also MAP price?

MAP was $2250 for the 2013 Traditionals. Gibson posts the MAP price on their website. You can try a google search and probably find the archived page for the 2013 Traditional on Gibsons site to check the MAP pricing.
Did you pay MAP? Maybe if Gibson allowed the dealer/dealers to lower the MAP because of release of the newer models? Or maybe Amazon just didn't abide by Gibsons rules? I have no idea. All I'm saying is that what someone pays and what MAP is aren't necessarily the same thing.

We probably agree on a lot regarding Gibsons pricing. My point was only that you took what you paid for the Traditional in 2013 and used it as an example of what a rip off Gibson is for charging more for a 2019 Studio than they did for a Traditional in 2013. But that's not accurate. To compare apples to apples, you would have to compare Gibsons original MAP for a 2013 Traditional ($2250) versus the MAP for the 2019 Studio ($1700) rather than what you or someone else paid on a good deal. That's all I was trying to say.
 
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MAP was $2250 for the 2013 Traditionals. Gibson posts the MAP price on their website. You can try a google search and probably find the archived page for the 2013 Traditional on Gibsons site to check the MAP pricing.
Did you pay MAP? Maybe if Gibson allowed the dealer/dealers to lower the MAP because of release of the newer models? Or maybe Amazon just didn't abide by Gibsons rules? I have no idea. All I'm saying is that what someone pays and what MAP is aren't necessarily the same thing.

We probably agree on a lot regarding Gibsons pricing. My point was only that you took what you paid for the Traditional in 2013 and used it as an example of what a rip off Gibson is for charging more for a 2019 Studio than they did for a Traditional in 2013. But that's not accurate. To compare apples to apples, you would have to compare Gibsons original MAP for a 2013 Traditional ($2250) versus the MAP for the 2019 Studio ($1700) rather than what you or someone else paid on a good deal. That's all I was trying to say.

Gotcha.
 
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As Mincer said....as soon as a few used ones hit the street.....
 
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