There is something magical about a really good Strat

Re: There is something magical about a really good Strat

When I first got a good guitar(back in '69) it was an SG standard(which I STILL have), prior to the SG I had a '63 Jaguar, but back then the Jags were short scales and I really never warmed up to it. It was actually stolen so my decision was made for me to replace it with my SG. So from 69 or 70 I played my SG until I got my first Strat in '87 and for a good six months I had a love/hate relationship with it. I loved the tone but it was a fight to play it. It took me close to a year to really learn how to play a Strat. I don't mean musically but how to work the guitar. Once I figured it out it was really quite wonderful. BUT I still feel that a musician/guitar player has to use the right tool for the right tune. I can't imagine attempting to play little wing or Castles made of Sand or Layla on anything but a Strat and the same thing applies when you need to get that warm creamy Les Paul tone on the neck pickup with the tone rolled back. You just can't do that with most Strats. So fortunately I have both and can bring two guitars when I need to. It works well.....
 
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My first Fender, a 1994 American Standard, was OK. I loved the color but over the years, as I swapped pickup set after set in it, I finally realized (with the help from a friend) that it wasn't that great. Quite a dud actually. The best it ever sounded was when I sold it, it had SCN pickups in it. They just worked right. It wasn't my first "Strat" but it was my first Fender. My first electric was a Martin Stinger, a Strat copy. I cut my teeth on that and had to learn how to tame a Strat early on.

These days it's just the two that I assembled. Both sound great and feel great. The neck specs are nearly identical on both of them, though the age difference is close to 20 years between them.
 
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I know what you mean. Some of us aren't 'man enough' to wear cowboy hats and boots & play that chicken pickin'.

Making no connection with that one...sorry.

Jimi Hendrix
Peter Green
Jimmy Page
Jimmy Page
Eric Clapton
Jeff Beck

All Fender players at one time or another and no cowboy gear or music...
 
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Making no connection with that one...sorry.

Jimi Hendrix
Peter Green
Jimmy Page
Jimmy Page
Eric Clapton
Jeff Beck

All Fender players at one time or another and no cowboy gear or music...

Geez, I didn't know that Christian. Hendrix with a Strat? Are you sure? Let me check...
 
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Geez, I didn't know that Christian. Hendrix with a Strat? Are you sure? Let me check...

Just making a point...

I don't get the Fender guitars = cowboys or Country music thing...

That was a dumb ass, closed minded statement when it was being made the first time in the 50's and 60's so not only is it still a dumb ass statement today but it's an old, used up dumb ass statement...

Just sayin'
 
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I've come closer to throwing several strats off my back deck than any other guitar make or model I've messed around with, but when you get one set up perfect...there's nothing like it.
 
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I've come closer to throwing several strats off my back deck than any other guitar make or model I've messed around with, but when you get one set up perfect...there's nothing like it.

Not me..I own 5 strats and have played strats for ions..
 
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I have no problem with Strats.

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That was a dumb ass, closed minded statement when it was being made the first time in the 50's and 60's so not only is it still a dumb ass statement today but it's an old, used up dumb ass statement...

Just sayin'

Every bit as dumb assed as the 'not man enough to play Fenders' comment from you.

Just sayin'
 
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I've been primarily a strat player my whole life, with a Gibson of different types thrown next to it.

One thing about wrangling a strat or tele into complete obedience is that it's almost a rite of passage. If you can't do it, you're not there yet. Elitist comment? Yeah. True? Yeah.

Choosing Fenders is an interesting topic, because within the constraints of being a strat, there's numerous feels amongst the feature sets. If you jump between Gibson and Fender, the American and Deluxe series has the right feel. If you're a die hard Fender player who understands the feel of maple 7.25" radius, you play it with a light touch most likely....and jumping to a Gibson is a bigger stretch feel-wise, but you have the Gibsons set up for a light touch as well.

Being a Fender/Gibson/vintage spec guy at heart, I try to adapt my playing to all the different strats, and find it funny that my fingers and brain tell me to play what I'm most used to. Everyone has their preconceived ideas of what strat they bond with, only based on what they've owned. I guess what I'm saying is that even players who hate 7.25" necks can get used to them if that's all they play for a few months.

Strats are an animal that needs to be tamed. Some go the distance with it like Hendrix, Vaughan, Johnson, Beck etc. Mastering a strat is a benchmark, most likely because it's the most pure electric guitar design. (only arguable with tele masters)

I swear, if i could compile a book of this guys posts, it would be a Bible..a "Tone Bible", and 500 years from now he would be a Tone prophet! I seriously doubt theres anyone who has his finger on the pulse of gear better than Gearjoneser. I wouldseriously love to see him play some 50's and 60'sStrats. IT beconmes a moot point then about radius, they just play so well,like an old Stravarius violin.They are perfect fotr everything except very modern Metal wiht lots of shredding that requires a flat radius and high output pickups with very high gain amps.
 
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I still prefer telecasters. :D

Maybe I just haven't stumbled upon a magical strat yet.

A satin finish on a thick maple neck with a 7.25" radius is hard to beat. It always gets my fingers flying and I have the most fun that way.
 
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Just want to make my previous post a bit clear. I am not against strats, infact I love Strats, and I am a strat guy. I love positions 2 & 4, a lot. Its just that there are too many cheapo copies out there.Sure there are cheapo sopies of other models, but we all know which model is the most copied. That's why I emphasized " the magic is in a really good strat" (many great copies ). When I pick my strat copy (SSS)and play it I love it, nice feel, play and tone.
I don hate the strat bridge but dot love it either tonally. I do prefer a humbucker in the bridge. And I do believe you need to dial the correct tone in the amp, something I admit I still have to get the hang of.
 
Re: There is something magical about a really good Strat

Just want to make my previous post a bit clear. I am not against strats, infact I love Strats, and I am a strat guy. I love positions 2 & 4, a lot. Its just that there are too many cheapo copies out there.Sure there are cheapo sopies of other models, but we all know which model is the most copied. That's why I emphasized " the magic is in a really good strat" (many great copies ). When I pick my strat copy (SSS)and play it I love it, nice feel, play and tone.
I don hate the strat bridge but dot love it either tonally. I do prefer a humbucker in the bridge. And I do believe you need to dial the correct tone in the amp, something I admit I still have to get the hang of.


Well going back to what GJ said. When I speak of Strats I speak of FENDER specifically or Teles the same thing. I am not saying that there aren't good alternatives(like Anderson, Shur, etc) but for me I will only buy a Fender or Gibson. Now I do have a few odd ball guitars but when I am looking at purchasing a guitar I tend to lean towards those specs. I personally don't like a Humbucker in the bridge of a Srat. Not saying there is anything wrong with it but it doesn't work for me. I think you loose more then you gain. I think it also has a lot to do with what type of music you play. I am a blues/blues-rock type of player and I lean more towards traditional tones and both Gibson and Fender do this better then most others do, aside from a hand made guitar...
 
Re: There is something magical about a really good Strat

Well going back to what GJ said. When I speak of Strats I speak of FENDER specifically or Teles the same thing. I am not saying that there aren't good alternatives(like Anderson, Shur, etc) but for me I will only buy a Fender or Gibson. Now I do have a few odd ball guitars but when I am looking at purchasing a guitar I tend to lean towards those specs. I personally don't like a Humbucker in the bridge of a Srat. Not saying there is anything wrong with it but it doesn't work for me. I think you loose more then you gain. I think it also has a lot to do with what type of music you play. I am a blues/blues-rock type of player and I lean more towards traditional tones and both Gibson and Fender do this better then most others do, aside from a hand made guitar...

I'm like you Dave in that I Like the actual Fender product..With this being said though,I have a really nice early Japan made 62 strat copy made by Fernandes that I bought many years ago for $200..It's a great guitar and every bit as good as any of the other strats I have owned..I still own this guitar also.
 
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Now that's just cheaty. I once played a not-so-good and off the wall import G&L Strat into a Bogner Shiva combo and that was the best tone I've ever had.

I wouldn't discount an import G&L. I just bought a G&L Tribute Legacy (ie import strat) with a thin neck and floyd rose recently, and it seriously rocks! I have several high-end guitars and this G&L really fits the bill for a superstrat. In my opinion, it was better than the Charvel USA and Japan superstrats I've tried the last couple years. After originally playing it and then leaving the store, I thought about that guitar for a month and realized that place of manufacture just doesn't matter. A good guitar is a good guitar. The price of it being used and an import made it even better, but didn't even factor into the decision. I just felt it was silly not liking something because it wasn't Made in America.

P.S. I've had a Bogner Shiva for a couple years. Not every guitar sounds good, but it does make the good ones sound great.
 
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Every bit as dumb assed as the 'not man enough to play Fenders' comment from you.

Just sayin'

I disagree with you but that's nothing new...

I must say that since you hate Fender's so badly I do wonder why you even bother to open these kinds of threads.

If you see a thread on Epiphones or magnet swapping please, feel free to open it up and tell us everything you know but since you have nothing to add to a discussion about much else do us a favor...please??
 
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