Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

[XSSIVE]

i'm getting a bit tired of all my various FX pedals and am looking into a very basic rack consisiting of a G-major, furman power and perhaps a korg tuner.

what is a good reliable midi pedal with a built in expression pedal (for use with the g-majors whammy setting) to use with it?

the other thing i'm a bit worried about is programming this thing. i have never used any form of rack gear or midi gear so this is a whole new world for me. how easy is it to get a g-major and pedal up and running doing what i need it to do? or am i in for a big headache?

thanks for any info!

-Mike

 

[jimmy]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

It should be pretty easy, if you're only going to do some simple things with it.

Also, you might want to try to get a rolls midi buddy, or something like that for the footpedal.

 

[Zerberus]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

i'm getting a bit tired of all my various FX pedals and am looking into a very basic rack consisiting of a G-major, furman power and perhaps a korg tuner.

what is a good reliable midi pedal with a built in expression pedal (for use with the g-majors whammy setting) to use with it?

the other thing i'm a bit worried about is programming this thing. i have never used any form of rack gear or midi gear so this is a whole new world for me. how easy is it to get a g-major and pedal up and running doing what i need it to do? or am i in for a big headache?

thanks for any info!

-Mike

Never used a G-major, but isn´t there the G-ninor made esp. for use with it?? or doesn´t that have the treadle??

As far as programming: some equip is more intuitive htn others, but generally MIDI switching guys tend to be glad they didn´t throw the manual away at some point or another

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Make sure to route everything parallel, and use a line mixer.
I am actually thinking about going back to some rack stuff again.
We are also fooling around with some 19" stuff at work, less hassle with noise and space, plus the powersupply is on the outside too, even more space
And no annoying talk about friggin' true diepass!!
Here it is Linelevel!!!
Plenty of nice juice

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Hmm you are giving me ideas about analouge 19" stuff now....hehehe evil grin.

 

[XSSIVE]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

jimmy: the midi buddy looks good but no expression pedal and since i found out the g-major does whammy stuff i need an expression pedal built in to the pedal i choose to control it.

zerb: g-minor is nice and simple but again no expression pedal.

rid: i have NO idea what you are talking about LOL. again, i have NO clue about rack stuff this is the first time i looked into it.

-Mike

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Hehe I used racks in my youth man!
All my friends used racks, some had awful sounds, but most who had some good understanding of what to do, had awesome sounds, nothing any pedal could hope to do.
Paralle means that you can have your unprocessed signal go directly into the amp, no loss what so ever, and then you can mix the effects in on top of it.
Grab a hold of Robert S, he uses rackstuff and has a very good knowledge of that stuff
Niels

 

[Zerberus]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Could you just hook a volume pedal for real time effects control?? I kn0ow a few units that work that way just fine....

FWIW

 

[XSSIVE]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

i have no idea zerb lol. i'm new to racks and midi it's like greek to me.

i figure a midi pedal with built in expression pedal would be much easier. i will still be using my tremonti wah though...no way i'm giving that up!

-Mike

 

[jimmy]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

jimmy: the midi buddy looks good but no expression pedal and since i found out the g-major does whammy stuff i need an expression pedal built in to the pedal i choose to control it.

Oh, sorry about that!

I think DSS uses the G-Major, maybe he could point you in the direction of a cool midi expression pedal.

 

[XSSIVE]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

DSS is the one that sparked this idea when i was talking to him about various ideas i had.

he mentioned one midi pedal that had it but at the time i didn't think i would need the expression pedal until i found out the g-major does whammy stuff. now i forgot the pedal name/brand and he's offline. :smack:

-Mike

 

[jimmy]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Do you really want the G-Major?

you could probably get a cheap rocktron intelliflex on ebay, and a digitech whammy.

 

[XSSIVE]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

i have a whammy...i want to do away with EVERY pedal aside from my tremonti wah.

as for g-major, it does everything i want and more and is one of the best (so i've read) and doesn't cost much at all...so why not.

i'm also thinking of hunting down a rack mount dual recto to use with this and i was told i can control its channel switching via the midi pedal and g-major but not with the rocktron xpression multi-fx unit which was the other one i was looking at. which also led me to the g-major.

oh and it's not about cheap. i want to do it right one time and get it over with (within reason...no $800 midi pedals lol)!

-Mike

 

[jimmy]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

i have a whammy...i want to do away with EVERY pedal aside from my tremonti wah.

as for g-major, it does everything i want and more and is one of the best (so i've read) and doesn't cost much at all...so why not.

i'm also thinking of hunting down a rack mount dual recto to use with this and i was told i can control its channel switching via the midi pedal and g-major but not with the rocktron xpression multi-fx unit which was the other one i was looking at. which also led me to the g-major.

oh and it's not about cheap. i want to do it right one time and get it over with (within reason...no $800 midi pedals lol)!

-Mike

Sweet, dude. I didn't know you were going ALL OUT! More power to ya!
I like to keep it old-school, so that's why I still run an old rocktron intelliflex with the pink knobs.

DSS will come online sooner or later, then you'll be able to get the name of it.

Your rack sounds killer from what you describe, but I have just one thing to suggest: Get the monster power conditionder instead of the fruman.
The furman is great, but, like you said, you're going all out, so get the quality power goin' on.

Rock.

 

[HolyDirt]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

i have no idea zerb lol. i'm new to racks and midi it's like greek to me.

i figure a midi pedal with built in expression pedal would be much easier. i will still be using my tremonti wah though...no way i'm giving that up!

-Mike

Zerbs right. You can hook a passive volume pedal to the g-major's "expression pedal" input. You can then use that passive volume pedal to control anything a normal expression pedal could. I use a behringer fcb1010 midi controller with my g-major. Although behringer isn't great name in guitar gear, they make a hell of a midi controller.

 

[J Moose]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Years ago I had an ART X-sumthing midi-controller that worked great. It was made of metal & had BIG rubber footswitches that I couldn't kill, unlike my buddies GSP-21 that started to fall apart after a year or so.

They used to make two of them...one had two expression pedals and a double the switches of the smaller one, I had the smaller one.

Back in the day my small rack was running with a combo & a Rockman Midi Octopus to switch amp channels and I had two or three 'banks' of presets set up kinda like stompboxes. In the end it was just too fustrating to use...I'd program presets but couldn't really tweak them live which is why I went back to using a real amp rather then a preamp (had a GK) poweramp setup. In the end though, it's just WAY easier to reach down and turn a knob on a flanger or delay rather then having 40 variations on a theme and getting confused by it all.

I checked fleabay while I was typing this out, dig it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ART-Midi-Master...391437863QQcategoryZ41419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ART-X-15-ULTRAF...390360523QQcategoryZ22669QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mine was the X-11. Worked great back in the day, I'd buy it again if I had to.

 

[Zerberus]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Just remembered: the ART X-15 Ultrafoot! even has 2 treadles :headbang:

Edit: Moose was faster

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Yeah, the art's are very nice pedals. I dig the behringer just for how cheap it is, though. Insane quality out of a ****ty company.

 

[Willis]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

I also have a Behringer footcontroller and I have no complaints. It's really sturdy, and does everything it should.

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: Thinking about a basic rack...sick of pedals...

Behringer makes a good controller.

BTW, don't go with the Monster power conditioner. Stick with the high end Furmans. I've seen more returned Monsters than Furmans.