Thinking out loud: high-gain amp used $1000

[dominus]

Re: Thinking out loud: high-gain amp used $1000

At one time I had a Marshall JCM 2000 TSL head, and a Peavey 5150. I sold the Marshall first. I think I paid $300 for the 5150 head, which if you can find one for that price, leaves enough of that $1000 left over to get a cab or two. (I've also owned a Mesa Boogie Triaxis.)

The Peavey 5150 can give you Marshall crunch and Mesa scream. If I was in the market for an amp, that'd be the first one I'd look at.

 

[Metalman_666]

Re: Thinking out loud: high-gain amp used $1000

For $1000 I would look around for any Mesa offering. They're versatile and great tone monsters for sure. And, yet another plug for the 5150/6505.

I've spent enough time tweaking at a friend's place and in guitar stores to realize that 5150s are really far more versatile than people give them credit for. The problem is that since so many heavy metal bands use them with the Gain high up, and get the same (or similar) tone, lots of people believe that's the only sound they make.

Also, I had a chance to see the Nuge a couple of years back and he actually gave a short rant about how there is such a thing as too much gain. Then he gave his own ringing endorsement for his 5150s on stage and started playing Stranglehold, "the coolest riff of all time." :laugh2: Ted Nugent can't be wrong...

 

[dominus]

Re: Thinking out loud: high-gain amp used $1000

I've spent enough time tweaking at a friend's place and in guitar stores to realize that 5150s are really far more versatile than people give them credit for. The problem is that since so many heavy metal bands use them with the Gain high up, and get the same (or similar) tone, lots of people believe that's the only sound they make.

Which is ridiculous, EVH doesn't sound like any of those bands.

Also, I had a chance to see the Nuge a couple of years back and he actually gave a short rant about how there is such a thing as too much gain. Then he gave his own ringing endorsement for his 5150s on stage and started playing Stranglehold, "the coolest riff of all time." Ted Nugent can't be wrong...

Well, he's right about the 5150 being versatile at least. I guess there's one thing I can agree on with him.

 

[PVFan]

Re: Thinking out loud: high-gain amp used $1000

Which is ridiculous, EVH doesn't sound like any of those bands.

THANK YOU

add Steve Morse to the list of tasty non-metal players who used 5150s a lot, along with the Nuge and MUTHERFUDGIN' EDDIE VAN FUDGIN' HALEN.

I don't have the list of 7000 people in front of me right now who don't play metal per se but do play (or played for a long time) 5150s, but again, that list includes EDDIE FUDGING VAN COTTONPICKING HALEN.

He and James Brown spent some time making that amp and the Mk 2 version of it sound like what made Eddie happy. I simply cannot imagine why that humongous advocation does not matter to those who too-quickly dismiss the product as they parrot the exact same, sensationalized false-factoids about this wonderful product, factoids that don't jive with reality.

Not liking an amp that lots of other people do is fine, and that's one thing, but this is beyond anything as simple as negative "hype", it's more like some kind of sociological phenomenon.


I'm happy at least that it hasn't really happened in this thread yet.