Thru neck design
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I played a Schecter c1 classic once and I was thoroughly impressed.
I played a Schecter c1 classic once and I was thoroughly impressed.
kmcguitars
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No doubt a Jackson is a fine instrument capable for just about any genre .
But for a similar reason a 20 something man would not show up to a metal gig w/t a drop tuned Rickenbacker Model 360 ,Is why a 50 something man would not show up in a blues bar w/t a soloist . No law against it ! Call it Guitar fashion if you must? Just not in vogue at this point . Understand this reasoning?? It's not so much you have to look cool playing a certain guitar, But more so the guitar should suit your personally.
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No doubt a Jackson is a fine instrument capable for just about any genre .
But for a similar reason a 20 something man would not show up to a metal gig w/t a drop tuned Rickenbacker Model 360 ,Is why a 50 something man would not show up in a blues bar w/t a soloist . No law against it ! Call it Guitar fashion if you must? Just not in vogue at this point . Understand this reasoning?? It's not so much you have to look cool playing a certain guitar, But more so the guitar should suit your personally.k:
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Ashurbanipal
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If it comes to a Firebird, Doug Kauer could probably make you one Gibson never would. I, for my part, am seriously gassing for a three P90 variant with some switcheroo to make the most of all the pickups.
As for superstrats and blues/old rock, depends on taste. Recall that Slash, a consummate bluesy rock man, top hat to boots, did play a B.C. Rich Mockingbird in the days of yore (don't know what the necks are like on those, though). Personally, I find that playing blues/old rock musick on a shred-stick neck (shallow depth, flat radius, railroad frets) doesn't feel as effective as on a fatter neck with smaller frets and rounder radius.
In terms of sustain, one's amp, pedals, pickups, and overall volume have a significant impact. I'd imagine that the difference between a bolt-on and a neck through is more like the difference between a valve vs. solid state rectifier in an amp - mostly to do with response, attack quality, harmonic vs. fundamental ratio and that kind of thing.
If it comes to a Firebird, Doug Kauer could probably make you one Gibson never would. I, for my part, am seriously gassing for a three P90 variant with some switcheroo to make the most of all the pickups.
As for superstrats and blues/old rock, depends on taste. Recall that Slash, a consummate bluesy rock man, top hat to boots, did play a B.C. Rich Mockingbird in the days of yore (don't know what the necks are like on those, though). Personally, I find that playing blues/old rock musick on a shred-stick neck (shallow depth, flat radius, railroad frets) doesn't feel as effective as on a fatter neck with smaller frets and rounder radius.
In terms of sustain, one's amp, pedals, pickups, and overall volume have a significant impact. I'd imagine that the difference between a bolt-on and a neck through is more like the difference between a valve vs. solid state rectifier in an amp - mostly to do with response, attack quality, harmonic vs. fundamental ratio and that kind of thing.
Robbyk
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So was I :cool2:
I have played blues on what ever I had around me at the time.
So was I :cool2:
I have played blues on what ever I had around me at the time.
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
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I used to work in a photolab back when people still used film and before anyone had a digital camera. I ran the machine that converted treated paper to the pictures you went and picked up from the store when they were ready.
One day a roll comes through of a Country/Southern Rock-type band at some outdoor gig (not the Roy Rogers cowboy outfits, more like 38 Special/Skynrd/etc). One of the guitarists was playing a Hot Pink Jackson Rhoads with black bevels, flipped over lefty.
Seemed to fit right in, from the pics of the crowd.
Yeah I don't recommend doing that Socialite Wedding gig with a Warlock or a Kelly, but a Soloist wouldn't be out of place.
If you want the neckthrough SG, get a Jackson SLS3.
Mahogany body, mahogany neckthrough, lightweight thin body, dual 59s, stringthrough/TOM.
I used to work in a photolab back when people still used film and before anyone had a digital camera. I ran the machine that converted treated paper to the pictures you went and picked up from the store when they were ready.
One day a roll comes through of a Country/Southern Rock-type band at some outdoor gig (not the Roy Rogers cowboy outfits, more like 38 Special/Skynrd/etc). One of the guitarists was playing a Hot Pink Jackson Rhoads with black bevels, flipped over lefty.
Seemed to fit right in, from the pics of the crowd.
Yeah I don't recommend doing that Socialite Wedding gig with a Warlock or a Kelly, but a Soloist wouldn't be out of place.
If you want the neckthrough SG, get a Jackson SLS3.
Mahogany body, mahogany neckthrough, lightweight thin body, dual 59s, stringthrough/TOM.
Re: Thru neck design
Being in the 50+ group, I find it less ascetically challenging playing a strat, tele, LP, 335 or firebird. I think my kids would laugh me out of the studio if I showed up with something too outrageous. A flying V could also work if you want to emulate Albert King. Color is less of an issue than style of the guitar. Buddy Guy has the chops to play a polka dot guitar but most of the rest of us couldn't pull that one off in a million years. Do you want people to be distracted by the guitar or pay attention to your playing?
Being in the 50+ group, I find it less ascetically challenging playing a strat, tele, LP, 335 or firebird. I think my kids would laugh me out of the studio if I showed up with something too outrageous. A flying V could also work if you want to emulate Albert King. Color is less of an issue than style of the guitar. Buddy Guy has the chops to play a polka dot guitar but most of the rest of us couldn't pull that one off in a million years. Do you want people to be distracted by the guitar or pay attention to your playing?
Diocletian
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WTF? I really don't understand how a Jackson Soloist is "outrageous"?
Why can't an older guy (like 50 is ANCIENT!?) play blues on something like this?
WTF? I really don't understand how a Jackson Soloist is "outrageous"?
Why can't an older guy (like 50 is ANCIENT!?) play blues on something like this?
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dude why do you have such a hard on for playing blues on a jackson. I'm a young guy and I'll say again, I have "metal" guitars (ESP, LTD) and I have more traditional guitars (LP, 335, etc.). First off, the neck shape of my LTD is way to thin and really does lend itself to comfortable blues playing. Secondly, multi-string bends DO not work on floyds which is pretty much a staple of classic rock and blues playing
WTF? I really don't understand how a Jackson Soloist is "outrageous"?
Why can't an older guy (like 50 is ANCIENT!?) play blues on something like this?
dude why do you have such a hard on for playing blues on a jackson. I'm a young guy and I'll say again, I have "metal" guitars (ESP, LTD) and I have more traditional guitars (LP, 335, etc.). First off, the neck shape of my LTD is way to thin and really does lend itself to comfortable blues playing. Secondly, multi-string bends DO not work on floyds which is pretty much a staple of classic rock and blues playing
Diocletian
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Right then. "dude". Sorry to bother you with my idiocy. Explain to me why you can't do "multi-string bends" on a guitar like that?
I used that guitar to play Gary Moore's "Walking By Myself" in a band and it worked just fine. In fact, it was easier than on a Les Paul thanks to the extra frets (try it, see what I mean). Maybe that's not blues enough for you.
I don't get your point.
But then, neither do I give a crap. You have a LTD? So what? Who the hell mentioned a LTD in this thread? Oh sorry, because you have a "similar" guitar to a Jackson variant, you know everything.
Right then! Carry on, Eddie Van Halen!
Right then. "dude". Sorry to bother you with my idiocy. Explain to me why you can't do "multi-string bends" on a guitar like that?
I used that guitar to play Gary Moore's "Walking By Myself" in a band and it worked just fine. In fact, it was easier than on a Les Paul thanks to the extra frets (try it, see what I mean). Maybe that's not blues enough for you.
I don't get your point.
But then, neither do I give a crap. You have a LTD? So what? Who the hell mentioned a LTD in this thread? Oh sorry, because you have a "similar" guitar to a Jackson variant, you know everything.
Right then! Carry on, Eddie Van Halen!
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Robbyk
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That sure is pretty, I also own the little black Les you have there.
I had a few kids dare me to gig out with thier guitar with the emg pickups, The claimed they were for shredding and all. I proved them wrong. A few quick adjustments of the amp and pedals, and she was sounding good.
WTF? I really don't understand how a Jackson Soloist is "outrageous"?
Why can't an older guy (like 50 is ANCIENT!?) play blues on something like this?
That sure is pretty, I also own the little black Les you have there.
I had a few kids dare me to gig out with thier guitar with the emg pickups, The claimed they were for shredding and all. I proved them wrong. A few quick adjustments of the amp and pedals, and she was sounding good.
Robbyk
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Dunno maybe i am looking in the wrong direction. Maybe I should consider replacing the Pick ups in the les paul. The guitar sings, but is lacking something. I dunno, have you guys ever felt like that certain something is missing and you keep looking for it? Sort of like not being complete and missing hands like Edward scissor hands...:eyecrazy:
Or................ I could try out a few hollow body epis.:naughty:
Dunno maybe i am looking in the wrong direction. Maybe I should consider replacing the Pick ups in the les paul. The guitar sings, but is lacking something. I dunno, have you guys ever felt like that certain something is missing and you keep looking for it? Sort of like not being complete and missing hands like Edward scissor hands...:eyecrazy:
Or................ I could try out a few hollow body epis.:naughty:
Zerberus
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A Jackson Soloist is outrageous for blues???
I guess that´s why people can´t resist looking on in awe when I unpack the BC Rich Wrath every Wednesday and blues it up... looks a Soloist on Crack in a bad mood....
Either way, the only important thing about the blues, or any other music, is the player. I can play death metal on a Hello Kitty Strat just as well as poppy love songs on a Rhoads.
Once you realize that as a guitarist you are only limiting yourself by labeling instruments as "Metal", "Blues", "Rock", "Fusion", "Jazz", or whatnot, only they will you truly be free to explore the creative boundaries of the instrument without being imprisoned by your own preconcieved BS
As a final note: do Pianists have different instruments for different music styles? Yes, but that´s wholly about the tone of the instrument fitting better, not because they don´t like the way a Steinway looks in a blues bar or a Honky-Tonk looks in a pop-club
It seems that in general guitarists limit themselves mentally significantly more than any other instrumentalists, and the worst part is it´s usually based purely on looks.... the irony here being that musicians are generally taught to look outside the boundaries and therefore SHOULD be the people least likely to succumb to such nonsense... Theory vs. Practice I guess.
A Jackson Soloist is outrageous for blues???
I guess that´s why people can´t resist looking on in awe when I unpack the BC Rich Wrath every Wednesday and blues it up... looks a Soloist on Crack in a bad mood....
Either way, the only important thing about the blues, or any other music, is the player. I can play death metal on a Hello Kitty Strat just as well as poppy love songs on a Rhoads.
Once you realize that as a guitarist you are only limiting yourself by labeling instruments as "Metal", "Blues", "Rock", "Fusion", "Jazz", or whatnot, only they will you truly be free to explore the creative boundaries of the instrument without being imprisoned by your own preconcieved BS
As a final note: do Pianists have different instruments for different music styles? Yes, but that´s wholly about the tone of the instrument fitting better, not because they don´t like the way a Steinway looks in a blues bar or a Honky-Tonk looks in a pop-club
It seems that in general guitarists limit themselves mentally significantly more than any other instrumentalists, and the worst part is it´s usually based purely on looks.... the irony here being that musicians are generally taught to look outside the boundaries and therefore SHOULD be the people least likely to succumb to such nonsense... Theory vs. Practice I guess.
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Re: Thru neck design
Well...here's an idea...you can always rest your hand with some pressure on the bridge when you do double stop bends and stuff like that. Just saying. It does limit the ability to get a really round tone (because you can't play really close to the neck) unless you have monster hands or are using the neck pu or roll of the tone knob (doesn't sound the same IMO). But with a bit of thinking and practice anyone can play a FR loaded guitar and bend strings and hold unbent ones without being out of tune.
Necessity is the mother of invention after all.
BTW don't take it as a disagreement with your post. You're entitled to your opinion. I'm just giving you an idea to go around this problem that's inherent with any floating vibrato unit.
I also believe looks are the most important thing when it comes to music. I'd MUCH rather play a starter pack BC Rich Warlock than a ES-339 for my brewtal tones.
And yes that was sarcasm. You can thank Diocletian for that.
Well...here's an idea...you can always rest your hand with some pressure on the bridge when you do double stop bends and stuff like that. Just saying. It does limit the ability to get a really round tone (because you can't play really close to the neck) unless you have monster hands or are using the neck pu or roll of the tone knob (doesn't sound the same IMO). But with a bit of thinking and practice anyone can play a FR loaded guitar and bend strings and hold unbent ones without being out of tune.
Necessity is the mother of invention after all.
BTW don't take it as a disagreement with your post. You're entitled to your opinion. I'm just giving you an idea to go around this problem that's inherent with any floating vibrato unit.
I also believe looks are the most important thing when it comes to music. I'd MUCH rather play a starter pack BC Rich Warlock than a ES-339 for my brewtal tones.
And yes that was sarcasm. You can thank Diocletian for that.
Zerberus
Baron Von Shred
Re: Thru neck design
Or do what I do and bend different strings at different rates, one or two just slightly to hold to pitch and the rest as much as you initially wanted to bend. Requires nothing more than individual control of all 4 fingers of your left hand, something any guitarist should strive for anyway
"Can`t use that technique / play that style on that type guitar/ hardware" is almost always a load of horse****, regardless of who´s saying it. The few exceptions to this rule are all of a purely technological nature and are few and far between, as well as glaringly obvious (can`t do 6-string dive bombs to slack on a Les paul or acoustic, for example).
Or do what I do and bend different strings at different rates, one or two just slightly to hold to pitch and the rest as much as you initially wanted to bend. Requires nothing more than individual control of all 4 fingers of your left hand, something any guitarist should strive for anyway
"Can`t use that technique / play that style on that type guitar/ hardware" is almost always a load of horse****, regardless of who´s saying it. The few exceptions to this rule are all of a purely technological nature and are few and far between, as well as glaringly obvious (can`t do 6-string dive bombs to slack on a Les paul or acoustic, for example).
