I recently bought a used hamer slammer series and the tuners were awful so I used what was available and they were acoustic tuning pegs from an ovation. They worked except the tuning keys are a little big. I am having a problem with how slinky or loose the strings feel. I upped the gauge from 9 to 10 and it feels like the strings are really loose. Could this have to do with the tuners and their ratio or is possibly just the guitar and its scale?
Tuner pegs and string tension problems
- Thread starter Matman1
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Re: Tuner pegs and string tension problems
Will be the guitar. The tuner's sole function is to keep tension in the string. If you aren't going out of tune or the strings aren't slipping on the tuning machines then they are functioning as required. You need to get used to the feel of the particular guitar.
Will be the guitar. The tuner's sole function is to keep tension in the string. If you aren't going out of tune or the strings aren't slipping on the tuning machines then they are functioning as required. You need to get used to the feel of the particular guitar.
ItsaBass
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Re: Tuner pegs and string tension problems
How steep are your string angles, at both the nut and the bridge?
It could be that the post holes in the Ovation tuners are higher than those in the stock tuners. That might have worked better on the Ovation if it had more angle on the head than the Hamer does. If this is the case, as long as the strings aren't rattling at the nut, you can probably stick with those tuners and make the strings a bit stiffer by lowering your tailpiece. That's assuming you are talking about a Gibson-style Slammer and not a Fender-style one. If, OTOH, the angle over the nut is not sufficient to prevent nut buzz, I'd invest in a set of dual-hole Schallers or Height-Adjustable-Post (H.A.P.) Gotohs.
How steep are your string angles, at both the nut and the bridge?
It could be that the post holes in the Ovation tuners are higher than those in the stock tuners. That might have worked better on the Ovation if it had more angle on the head than the Hamer does. If this is the case, as long as the strings aren't rattling at the nut, you can probably stick with those tuners and make the strings a bit stiffer by lowering your tailpiece. That's assuming you are talking about a Gibson-style Slammer and not a Fender-style one. If, OTOH, the angle over the nut is not sufficient to prevent nut buzz, I'd invest in a set of dual-hole Schallers or Height-Adjustable-Post (H.A.P.) Gotohs.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Tuner pegs and string tension problems
Cheap solution. When you next restring, wrap more turns around the posts. This should restore the necessary angle over the nut.
I have successfully changed the stock Jin-Ho heads to both Gotoh (XT Junior) and Grover snot 'n' nickel keystone style Grovers (XT Sunburst). For some reason, the headstock holes were closer to the edge on the Sunburst than the Junior.
Cheap solution. When you next restring, wrap more turns around the posts. This should restore the necessary angle over the nut.
I have successfully changed the stock Jin-Ho heads to both Gotoh (XT Junior) and Grover snot 'n' nickel keystone style Grovers (XT Sunburst). For some reason, the headstock holes were closer to the edge on the Sunburst than the Junior.
Re: Tuner pegs and string tension problems
Action (blame the Hamer)? Headstock angle (blame both)? Bridge problems (Hamer)? Crap tuners (Ovation)?
Maybe risk Gotoh or Schaller knockoff tuners from GFS, some cost pennies? Or used market? Or, heck, I've even seen Grovers (which I personally don't like, but that's just me) for all of $40 new, and seemed like they were real enough...
But, really, Hamer Slammer series has gotten a lot of hate that I've heard of... one guy here (I think) even has a hate-message about em in his signature. That's saying something. A lot. Maybe just flip it on and snipe for a $100-200 old noname MiJ on Craigslist, or go around Guitar Center looking at the backs of headstocks in the used section? Their laziness is SOMETHING else, I've scored *700-series* JAPANESE IBANEZES for $150 there before. In near-mint condition, too... all because it looked sorta like a later IndoChina lowend model to their eyes, the seller had no idea what it was, and they didn't bother checking. Heck, they've spoiled me so badly I walk right past Japanese Jacksons for 200ish these days.
Action (blame the Hamer)? Headstock angle (blame both)? Bridge problems (Hamer)? Crap tuners (Ovation)?
Maybe risk Gotoh or Schaller knockoff tuners from GFS, some cost pennies? Or used market? Or, heck, I've even seen Grovers (which I personally don't like, but that's just me) for all of $40 new, and seemed like they were real enough...
But, really, Hamer Slammer series has gotten a lot of hate that I've heard of... one guy here (I think) even has a hate-message about em in his signature. That's saying something. A lot. Maybe just flip it on and snipe for a $100-200 old noname MiJ on Craigslist, or go around Guitar Center looking at the backs of headstocks in the used section? Their laziness is SOMETHING else, I've scored *700-series* JAPANESE IBANEZES for $150 there before. In near-mint condition, too... all because it looked sorta like a later IndoChina lowend model to their eyes, the seller had no idea what it was, and they didn't bother checking. Heck, they've spoiled me so badly I walk right past Japanese Jacksons for 200ish these days.
