Vocal processing?

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What do you guys use to process vocals, particularly for recording? Right now my band is doing some live rehearsal recording, and the vocals are coming out a little lackluster, but we aren't doing anything to them as of yet. I'm completely out of the loop on this kind of stuff, so what kind of processing is out there? Tube preamps, or some kind of preamps maybe? Compression?

Any help would be cool.
 
Re: Vocal processing?

I am no expert, but I have done a bit of recording and a lot of live sound. For vocals, the first and most important thing is a good vocal condenser mic, next would be some good (quality) compression. Pre-amps are a nice plus. After that some verb or delay to taste. The rest is all your singer.
 
Re: Vocal processing?

A condenser mic isn't going to be useful for live rehearsal recordings because it is going to be too sensitive and will therefore pick up too much spill from the room, unless the vocalist is isolated from the rest of the band. If the singer is in the same room, then a dynamic mic like a Shure SM58 will be what you need. A mic preamp is essential to get an appropriate signal level, so you can either use the preamp in a mixing console, or for better quality, a dedicated mic preamp. A good tube preamp will add some warmth and body to the signal. Compression on the way in to the recorder should be used sparingly just to ride the levels and contain the loudest passages. You are better off adding compression as an insert effect when mixing. You may need to do some pre-eq'ing to the signal to add some life to it, but only if there's someone there who knows what they are doing, otherwise, again, you would be better off adding (or subtracting) eq at mixdown. If you are recording direct to 2 track and can't mix, then you will need to add compression and eq on the way in. A liitle plate reverb can also add life to the vocal and put it into its own "space." Hope this helps.


Cheers........................wahwah
 
Re: Vocal processing?

If you want the vocals to sounds good, re-record them in isolation after the live recordings - a vocal recorded with a SM58 is lackluster at best, even lackluster with a Beta 58. Great live mics though.
 
Re: Vocal processing?

If you want the vocals to sounds good, re-record them in isolation after the live recordings - a vocal recorded with a SM58 is lackluster at best, even lackluster with a Beta 58. Great live mics though.

Bono sounds fine as a singer . . . and he uses an SM58 to record. I think using a dynamic mic is just fine for sound quality.
 
Re: Vocal processing?

If you want the vocals to sounds good, re-record them in isolation after the live recordings - a vocal recorded with a SM58 is lackluster at best, even lackluster with a Beta 58. Great live mics though.

Yeah, I think you'll find GuitarStv is right, you'd be surprised how many hit records and globally succesful recordings were made with a 58 on the vocals, some of them even sung in the control room.


Cheers....................wahwah
 
Re: Vocal processing?

Bono sounds fine as a singer . . . and he uses an SM58 to record. I think using a dynamic mic is just fine for sound quality.

...just a trivia fact, but Bono was almost booted early in their career because he didn't sound so fine as a singer.

Anyone can find an example of anything contrary to the general consensus, but feel free to tally up the vocal recordings with condensers vs. the vocal recordings with a 58.

The 58 was designed to sound as good as it could while significantly rejecting off axis sound (that translates as a live stage mic)
 
Re: Vocal processing?

If your going to touch up the vocals after look at:

-Adding some compression (you can search the net for great starting settings/ratios etc.)
-Add some reverb of delay
-A little EQ will get rid of some "boomyness" if you have it
 
Re: Vocal processing?

It depends on how far these recordings will go but assuming they are just demo's (as live rehearsal recordings) and arent expected to be platinum selling records then an SM58 is fine and a good tube (or tube emulating) pre amp should help to. But then if you want something alot better then an expensive condenser through an expensive tube preamp and tube compression would sound great (but may not be worth all the cash it costs).
I think reverb (if used tastefully) works wonders for vocals.
 
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