Warehouse Speakers - Green Beret

[Jolly_Rancher]

Re: Warehouse Speakers - Green Beret

Most speaker Co's have sound clips on their sites.

Well, it's not so much a problem with clips, but with the transparency of salesmen and also computer speakers. I'm not using computer speakers.

And I sort of need to correct the sentiment that a clip of a speaker is nearly worthless. If they use the exact same everything else, then it is much more valuable. But, a lot of the clips on the WGS site are far from that.

 

[The JEM Ghost]

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So what is popular on main-land Europe for after market speakers ?

Hi JackdeFuzz

Over here in Europe the most popular after market speakers are Celestion speakers, that is still the big number one in popularity.
Second spot would go to a US company with Eminence speakers, but the difference with Celestion in popularity and demand is still pretty big. Third would be Jensen, but compared to Celestion that's already a huge difference in popularity, mainly some of the Fender-amp players would select a Jensen.
Overall Celestion is still untouched in popularity and demand over here in Europe.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

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Hi JackdeFuzz

Over here in Europe the most popular after market speakers are Celestion speakers, that is still the big number one in popularity.
Second spot would go to a US company with Eminence speakers, but the difference with Celestion in popularity and demand is still pretty big. Third would be Jensen, but compared to Celestion that's already a huge difference in popularity, mainly some of the Fender-amp players would select a Jensen.
Overall Celestion is still untouched in popularity and demand over here in Europe.

Baie dankie vir die inligting, ek waardeur dit baie !


Thanx man !

 

[The JEM Ghost]

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Baie dankie vir die inligting, ek waardeur dit baie !

Very much welcome Jack, any time mate!

 

[babatube]

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Most speaker Co's have sound clips on their sites.

you don't know what processing these clips had in the way to your pc speakers.
these clips are worthless!!!
please don't judge a speaker according to the clip it has on it's site.
just listen to it and hear if you like it.
in all the videos and clips i seen, the celestion vintage 30 sounded like crap.
all i can say is, now i'm building a golden shrine to it:notworthy
it's a great speaker and the videos i seen were no where near capturing it's original sound and feel.

(you can skip the next part, personal sound engineer rant....)
the signal goes from a different acoustics in the room it's recorded
-frequency response changed due to mic position and frequency response
-the clip is compressed to a crappy mpeg format and looses more of it's authenticity.
-now if it wasn't enough it travels thru your cheap PC soundcard to change the sound a bit more and finally
-to a speaker who has a total different frequency response than the source.:28:

 

[drew_half_empty]

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you don't know what processing these clips had in the way to your pc speakers.
these clips are worthless!!!
please don't judge a speaker according to the clip it has on it's site.
just listen to it and hear if you like it.
in all the videos and clips i seen, the celestion vintage 30 sounded like crap.
all i can say is, now i'm building a golden shrine to it:notworthy
it's a great speaker and the videos i seen were no where near capturing it's original sound and feel.

(you can skip the next part, personal sound engineer rant....)
the signal goes from a different acoustics in the room it's recorded
-frequency response changed due to mic position and frequency response
-the clip is compressed to a crappy mpeg format and looses more of it's authenticity.
-now if it wasn't enough it travels thru your cheap PC soundcard to change the sound a bit more and finally
-to a speaker who has a total different frequency response than the source.:28:

I think you're missing the point, though I will add that should you ever be in a band that you know, records, your sound is gonna be
-layered with different sounds from a bunch of different mikes
-compressed
-mastered
-clustered together on a tiny file with all the other mics on all the other instruments in the band
-put on a CD
-and be interpreted by car, computer, or home-audio speakers.


The point is to illustrate differences between speakers, much like the pickup sound samples on the duncan site. They're not gonna sound exactly like what your setup will, that would be impossible, they just show that if you have a '59 and you know how it sounds this is how a... pearly gates will sound in comparison

 

[babatube]

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I think you're missing the point, though I will add that should you ever be in a band that you know, records, your sound is gonna be
-layered with different sounds from a bunch of different mikes
-compressed
-mastered
-clustered together on a tiny file with all the other mics on all the other instruments in the band
-put on a CD
-and be interpreted by car, computer, or home-audio speakers.


The point is to illustrate differences between speakers, much like the pickup sound samples on the duncan site. They're not gonna sound exactly like what your setup will, that would be impossible, they just show that if you have a '59 and you know how it sounds this is how a... pearly gates will sound in comparison

hi drew half empty since i am a sound engineer (i was is more correct...) i know all about processing done to recording.
this is welcome when you want something to sound the best it can be.

i'm just saying that alot of the clips can be very misleading and one should not judge a speaker by a video clip.
when you judge a speaker you want to hear it's true performance.
with today's modern artists the last thing you want to hear is their true performance:disappoin
darn it can no one sing without autotune anymore???

 

[Jolly_Rancher]

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I think you're missing the point, though I will add that should you ever be in a band that you know, records, your sound is gonna be
-layered with different sounds from a bunch of different mikes
-compressed
-mastered
-clustered together on a tiny file with all the other mics on all the other instruments in the band
-put on a CD
-and be interpreted by car, computer, or home-audio speakers.


The point is to illustrate differences between speakers, much like the pickup sound samples on the duncan site. They're not gonna sound exactly like what your setup will, that would be impossible, they just show that if you have a '59 and you know how it sounds this is how a... pearly gates will sound in comparison

Don't think I'm being snotty, but you are the one missing the point here. The point is there are unknown variables. Sometimes clips comparisons are worthwhile, but only if they are all recorded equally the same way with all the same equipment and processing including level matching, except that one speaker or item changed out. And, of course you need [speaker] monitors and sound card (external converters) that can reproduce beyond the range of the recorded item accurately, without uneven frequency response. With the range of electric guitar that's not asking for much.

What you said about recording with your band is only part of a point, and what you are saying, is true, but, a great engineer / mix engineer makes sure that the mastered track sounds it's best on all kinds of sound systems. Some clips are better than others, but the speaker clips are only slightly useful on the clips that are of the same amp, and I would hope the same settings and guitar but they don't say.

 

[Wonker]

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Avatar Speakers has some good deals on Warehouse Speakers in their Scratch, Dent and Overstock page.


http://www.avatarspeakers.com/

 

[Bludave]

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Looks good Jeff. Glad you like them. I may have to try some

 

[Jeffrec]

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Looks good Jeff. Glad you like them. I may have to try some

Dave,

I think you'ld like them. Your Comet will sound awesome through them.:14: