“Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

[waltschwarzkopf]

“Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Hi guys,

I found this guitar on the swiss equivalent for ebay. There is no information at all and the seller has no clue about the guitar. In his others listings, he sells a Harley Benton tele, a Music Man Silhoutte and a Warmoth Tele.

The ad says the following:

Very nice LP with a gorgeous top. Eye-catcher
Body and neck quality parts from Warmoth.
Seymour Duncan Pus etc.
Parts valued over 1000.-

So. I asked him:

Was the guitar built by a luthier with the parts from Warmoth? Also, could you include more information about the guitar? For example, woods of the neck, top, body, fretboard, scale length and model and magnet type of the pickups.

And sadly he replied:

I wish i could give you an interesting answer but i have absolutely no idea about it. What if you come and watch it? Otherwise we would discuss about a cheaper price and i send it to you? Im also inteested in exchsnges with stratos. Cheers

From the pictures I could made out the following:

• Warmoth style neck, unspecified wood, seems to be (flame?) maple (around $350)
• Regal style body, unspeficied wood, top seems to be quilted maple (around $450)
• 2 Seymour Duncan humbuckers, one of them is SH-1N (59 neck) (around $200)
• Planet waves locking tuners (around $90)
• Unknown nut
• Unknown bridge
• 1 volume + 1 tone + 5? Way switch, also unspecified

What do you think? He has no idea about the guitar and at least he doesn’t claim to have built it himself. Howver, it has been dismounted and opened for the pictures, hopefully carefully enough… Without me saying anything, he offered to lower the price and that I could see it and test it.

He wants 550CHF (for simplicity let’s say 1CHF = 1USD), I told him that the guitar is not worth 500 bucks if all parts are unknown to him. I’ve heard many times that Warmoth parts put together in a “forced marriage” usually end up in a sh¡tty guitar with quality parts.

Thanks a lot for reading and for your comments,

Cheers,
Walter

P.S. If you live in Zürich and want to get together and jam, send me a PM.

 

[muttznmongrelz]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Cool guitar and fair price. Warmoth Compound Radius/Wizard Back Shape on a Maple Fretboard Neck, Blue Flamey Top/Mahogany Back = BUY IT!

 

[Mincer]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

I have to say, that is one pretty guitar. If you can play it first, I'd try to do that. Warmoths are really up to the skill of the person who puts everything together.Hopefully the seller knows what he/she was doing.

 

[Darg1911]

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Well, for starters, the tuning machines are lined up a lot better than plenty of Gibson's I've seen. That should count for something ...

For whatever silly reason, bolt on necks on single cuts that closely resemble LP's always just seemed "wrong" to me. But, that looks like a nice guitar from the photos. I probably wouldn't take a $550 flyer on it sight unseen. But, if I were interested and it was close enough for me to check out in person, I definitely would. If it's well done, at south of $550 I could get over my bolt on neck thing easily enough.

 

[Pontiac Jack]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Bridge looks like a Gotoh 510UB. Quality stuff.
On the back,about 1inch to the right of centre,there appears to be some sort of imperfection running almost the length of the body.
Doesn't appear to be a join,its not straight. Doesn't look like grain,its too pronounced. Looks like a crack! But,it might just be a reflection.
Might pay to ask....
Is the top solid or veneered?

Cheers,PJ

 

[devastone]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Warmoth doesn't do veneers to the best of my knowledge. Yes, unless someone has totally screwed up the parts it's worth $550 easy.

 

[PS412]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

If it's in working order,buy it. I would.

 

[waltschwarzkopf]

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Hi guys, a quick update:

I manage to get his phone number and asked him more about the guitar.
According to him, he is in a band and they have/had a lot of equipment, so they are trying to sell what they don't use. He claims to have bought the guitar from a guy (luthier maybe) who makes guitars in a city nearby, in this case with parts valued over 1200CHF. What IS strange, is that if he/they have so many guitars and anyone can tell the parts with a simple google search, he still claims to know nothing about the guitar.

Being that the truth or a lie to scam people, I would not pay those 550CHF that he wants. As far as I know, he is trying to sell his/their "left-overs" and get whatever they can, that is probably why he offered to drop the price immediately. I will offer him 300 bucks and ask to test it.

To be honest, I was looking for a Les Paul, two humbuckers, 2 tones + 2 vols and a set neck and this just showed up; I have been avoiding any bolt-on LP copies or wrap-around bridges. I cannot afford a Gibson so I was going for a 2009 Epiphone Les Paul Custom AW for 250CHF which suits my need better than this, I want to try a few mods on it. So this only has the Les Paul body and the HH pickups, I was already thinking about adding another vol and tone to it, and checking if the scale is 24.75 or 25.5 and I guess that is already a bad start...

 

[ehdwuld]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

It is pretty

If he bought it from some dude he would know some particulars for the same reason you're asking

If he swiped it from some dude , the story may line up better

If he was a musician he would know the scale

 

[PS412]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Hmm, I change my answer. If you have doubts might be better to just get the Epiphone.
Epi's are good guitars.

 

[orpheo]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

This is a bloody bargain. It's their old, by now discontinued, LP shape.

Birdseye maple neck. Double lam top is likely.

I'd go with this over epi like crazy. Maple neck is always a safe bet. I have almost 30 warmoth LP's: no dud. None.

 

[waltschwarzkopf]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

NEW UPDATE

I got the price down to 400 bucks, he says that is 2-3 years old and that it was never played, only showing on the wall and it may need a setup. I'm gonna go see it and play it and maybe take it from him.

 

[Mincer]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Thanks for the updates. I look forward to more reports about this thing. It sure is pretty.

 

[orpheo]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Wow that's an even better deal. Check the setup first (neck relief, action) and take it from there.

 

[Aceman]

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Well, for starters, the tuning machines are lined up a lot better than plenty of Gibson's I've seen. That should count for something ...

That would be a reasonable criticism of Gibson compared to this except....they don't actually attempt to line up the tuners!

 

[Darg1911]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Maybe they should set up the CNC to drill the little screw holes ...

 

[waltschwarzkopf]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

UPDATE

The seller's an idiot... Here's why:

On Friday evening we agree that I will go and see/play the guitar on Saturday morning and since his house is 1:30hrs away I have to plan ahead and leave early. On Saturday morning, I receive an e-mail from Ricardo (swiss eBay) saying that the listing had ended, so I go look it up and see that it had ended with an offer of 490CHF (instead of the 550CHF), I feel a bit relieved so I can go for the Les Paul that I want (not this hybrid). Nevertheless, I contact him just to make sure and he says that he had removed the listing because someone had offered him a guitar in exchange. I say "ok", better for him because he was looking to exchange for another guitar.

I do things calmly at home instead of rushing out at 8 am to go and see this guitar; I tell the other guy from the Les Paul that I will see it on Sunday and also make plans for the rest of the weekend. Then, the Warmoth seller sends me a message asking when will I arrive at his house. So I tell him, "you told me that you will exchange the guitar, so there is no need for me to come over anymore" and then he says that he doesn't need the other guitar...

Then why cancel the listing? Why tell me that he was offered to exchange it? :wrf:

I told him that I could come in the afternoon and he said that he doesn't have time and yadda yadda yadda a week is lost because I don't have time to go during weekdays.

As a side note, I did get a guitar and it rocks! I'm thinking about a few mods that I want to perform just for personal taste.

IF he gets back to me AND I have time, I may go see the guitar just to try it out. I don't want it and I don't need it, but if he drops the price a bit more I may take it off his hands just because it looks nice and could be a good investment. Otherwise, I'll save my money and focus on playing :banana:

 

[PS412]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

I'd walk away from this fella.

 

[muttznmongrelz]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

What he said...walk away.

 

[RorySquier]

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Re: “Warmoth Custom Les Paul” funny name from a seller that has no idea about it

Nice top on that guitar. Looks stunning.



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