WEAK sustain on high e...

Pierre

Stratologist
My high e sustains for twice less time than my other strings :| I have no idea what causes this. It's not the saddle, it doesn't seem to be the nut... The guitar is unplugged and I already lowered the pickups :( I just have no idea what it could be. Thoughts...?
 
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Is your action very low, and are you using thin strings?

Having a bit more tension on the string (through using thicker strings/a higher action) can help sustain if the tension is atm very low..
 
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They're 11s. I only ever use 11s. The guitar has a Floyd but it has a pretty good sustain usually. And the action is fairly low but nothing unusual....About 1.25mm on the 12th fret with the 1st fret depressed. 1.75 without this. On this particular string that is. I'm not too used to anything much higher :( I'll try raising it though.

Edit: nope, did nothing... I can keep the action fairly low and get more than enough sustain, but the e still sounds weak.
 
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I'm playing accoustically for now.
Wow and when I play a 12th fret harmonic on it, it vanishes after half a second to become a shrill weird sound...
 
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I had this problem once. With me, it was because my high E was really grubby. To be fair, all the strings were grubby, but the high E was affected most because it is the thinniest.
 
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What does grubby mean?
All the strings are brand new by the way. Maybe tomorrow I'll try replacing it with a .10 and see what gives. It's not the nut since when I fret I get the same problem. Leaves the saddle. I'll try and see if it's there.
 
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Grubby means dirty. Sorry Pierre. My hands, unless I wash them first, leave horrible marks on my fretboard and strings.
 
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This may sound dumb, but have you tried changing the string?

I often find that problems like this are caused by a fault in the string but it's not assumed to be at fault because it's new. i had the same problem with a brand new set of D'addarios the other day.

The other thing it could be is your locking nut. Occasionally casting and plating flaws will manifest as a slight ridge at the back of the front string gate, causing intonation problems and all the other symptoms of a flared nut slot.
 
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The nut problem would disappear as I fret a note though right?
I'll try and change the string. I have a spare .10 but that's it. I broke another high e today on the model 1a when I was trying to work on the nut... Thanks for the tip, I hadn't thought of it.
 
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hAILS GUYS, I[M HAVING A Simila rproblem
but form what i remember, its only when plugged that the E string lacks sustain. weak sustain, as Pierre(AKA unholy cabaret warrior) said.
i´m affraid that it could be the emg 81.
Q:(
or the string/bridge position
don´t know
its on my red charvel
 
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octavedoctor said:
I often find that problems like this are caused by a fault in the string but it's not assumed to be at fault because it's new.

So very often overlooked. Just because it is a new string doesn't mean it is a good one.

I believe it was Odie that spoke about the vibration possible hitting multiple places in the nut, thus dampening the string.

But, always try the easy things first. String.
 
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Pierre said:
The nut problem would disappear as I fret a note though right?
Yes.

Another cause of sustain loss would be a sloppy hitch technique on the tuner, but you wouldn't notice this with a locking nut when it is clamped down.

If you have too many wraps and all the coils piled up on top of each other it's like having a spring attached to the string, absorbing energy at each resonant cycle.

I didn't mention this before as, knowing you, I figured you probably had that angle covered anyway...:beerchug:
 
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Locking nut problems aren´t rally a possibility either, becasue his guitar is a Charvel Model Series with a Kahler style lock.....

BUT: the JT-6 trem is notorious for it´s slightly softer material, it´s not uncommon for the high e saddle to develop a burr or groove ... fine sandpaper will solve that ;)
 
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Ohhh let me just have a look. I'll go to the shop and get some strings and hopefully by tonight I shall be finished with both guitars. I'll get back to you guys. Cheers everyone!
 
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