What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

[vinterland]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Whats wrong with using a 57?

 

[Jeff Dunne]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

+1, they really do work quite well on guitar amps.

 

[Young Angus]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Yeah that's the general consensus I'm getting from everywhere, even the mic shop where they could try to sell me something more expensive than a 57 still told me to just get a 57 because everyone should be able to get a good sound using one.

 

[Jeff Dunne]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

If you want something a little different, e609's and i5's (Sennheiser/Audix respectively) are really solid dynamics mic's designed with guitar amps in mind - my favorite recorded tone so far has been an e609 and 57, with the 57 on and the 609 off axis.

 

[vinterland]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Yeah that's the general consensus I'm getting from everywhere, even the mic shop where they could try to sell me something more expensive than a 57 still told me to just get a 57 because everyone should be able to get a good sound using one.

Don't try and reinvent the wheel is always good advice. 57's are just tried and true.

 

[daemon barbeque]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Don't try and reinvent the wheel is always good advice. 57's are just tried and true.

what about flying?:laugh2:

 

[Marinblues]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

If you want something a little different, e609's and i5's (Sennheiser/Audix respectively) are really solid dynamics mic's designed with guitar amps in mind - my favorite recorded tone so far has been an e609 and 57, with the 57 on and the 609 off axis.

Jeff,

I find the e609 appealing because I can hang it on top of my amp and just leave it.

In a nutshell, how does it compare to the SM57?

thanks

Marin

 

[greendy123]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

I was wondering about the beta versions of the mics. Are they any better than the originals, cause I know they use the Neodynium magnets, or are they just completely different mics?

 

[Jeff Dunne]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Jeff,

I find the e609 appealing because I can hang it on top of my amp and just leave it.

In a nutshell, how does it compare to the SM57?

thanks

Marin

I've never actually compared them side to side, but from what I've heard of just the e609, I prefer a 57 if you're only using one mic.

I see/hear them sounding killer at live shows, though - super easy to place, because of that hanging feature.

 

[vinterland]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

The e609 definately has more of a scooped eq sound. I put both a 57 and a e609 while trying mics on a Marshall Jubilee with 4x12 cab and ended not using the e609. The thing had more of a bottom end but too much top end sizzle. In short, I thought the 57 was much better. All my opinion though.

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

I'd say start with an Audio Technica AT-2020. An incredibly versatile and well-built large diaphragm condenser mic for around 100 bucks. It's good on almost any instrument you can put in front of it ... not great, mind you, but better than most mics worth five times as much.

Thats not a large diaghram mic.

 

[vinterland]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Thats not a large diaghram mic.

Are you joking? If you aren't I would love to hear your logic here.

 

[Young Angus]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

I've heard the beta versions of the shure mics are fantastic and I have a professional friend who swears by them. I'm going to get a couple of the shure beta57's instead of the sm57's I was almost decided on. Apparently they're great!

 

[Young Angus]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

http://www.recordingreview.com/arti...uys-Generally-Dont-Need-Mega-Microphones.html

I haven't read this article yet but apparently it's interesting and on topic with mics...could be full of crap though because a harmony central person posted it

 

[vinterland]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

I've heard the beta versions of the shure mics are fantastic and I have a professional friend who swears by them. I'm going to get a couple of the shure beta57's instead of the sm57's I was almost decided on. Apparently they're great!

The beta series are good for live usage which is what they were designed for. They've got a lot of presence and cut. They wouldn't be my first choice for a studio mic by any means

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Are you joking? If you aren't I would love to hear your logic here.

Simple facts here. No logic needed or conclusions to be drawn. The 2020 uses a 16mm diaphragm. Thats ~ 5/8's of an inch. Large diaphragm mics are generally in the neighborhood of 1". The 2020 is a medium diaphragm @ most.

http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/literature/49f63e6efc082082/at2020_english.pdf

 

[vinterland]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Whatever you think... but it's definately not a small diaphragm so that would make it a????? large! AT calls it a large. I've never heard anyone refer to it as otherwise. I'd look at someone with a puzzled face if they referred to something as a medium diaphragm.

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Whatever you think... but it's definately not a small diaphragm so that would make it a????? large! AT calls it a large. I've never heard anyone refer to it as otherwise. I'd look at someone with a puzzled face if they referred to something as a medium diaphragm.

Neither the product page of their website nor the spec sheet I linked to call it a large diaphragm. No one experienced would consider a mic with a 5/8 in diaphragm to be an LDC. I would suggest you do a little homework before you start talking to much about such things.

 

[vinterland]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

Neither the product page of their website nor the spec sheet I linked to call it a large diaphragm. No one experienced would consider a mic with a 5/8 in diaphragm to be an LDC. I would suggest you do a little homework before you start talking to much about such things.

Funny that I have a sweetwater catalog with an AT 2020 large diaphram condensor mic pictured right here beside me. So you're saying you would honestly consider this a small diaphragm condensor? I'll agree that most large diaphragm mics are larger but saying its a large characterizes it better than a small.

 

[Jeff Dunne]

Re: What are some better mics than the typical sm57 and 58?

I love how he's suggesting Vinterland is inexperienced - I'd love to learn from him.