What humbucker for this wood?

[tone]

Hi guys.
Just wanted to see if anyone has suggestions on what humbucker would work well with a Swamp Ash body/one piece maple neck combo Strat, for some EVHish paf style tone? Something that won't be too bright or have too much top end with the woods used. Go ahead and suggest some single coils to work with it too if you want.

Thanks!

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

The EVH would work, as would the PG, 59, APH, and Seth. As far as neck and mid pickups, SSL-1's or APS_1's wold be my choice, depending on the 'bucker you go with.

 

[tone]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Thanks for the suggestions!
I wanted to check out the EVH for sure, but I was worried it would be too bright in those woods. Do you happen to know what color SD offers the EVH '78 in?

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Thanks for the suggestions!
I wanted to check out the EVH for sure, but I was worried it would be too bright in those woods. Do you happen to know what color SD offers the EVH '78 in?

Since it's a Custom Shop job, I would imagine you can get it in any color you want. Check with SD directly to be sure, though.

Also, keep in mind, PAF's are pretty bright if you're coming form a distortion class 'bucker. I preffer to think of them as "open sounding". :newangel:

 

[dani]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

swamp ash = lows and highs with slight scooped mids.

maple = high end snap and tight lows.

i suggest the cc to smoothen out the bridge position and add some nice mids to balance out the tone. a2p middle and neck will complement the cc nicely.

 

[Butch Snyder]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

I'd do a CC for sure...

 

[ErikH]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

CC with some APS-1's. :fing2:

Remember though, Eddie's striped guitar body on the first 2 albums was ash and he had a PAF in it, with one coil rewound, so the EVH or 59 model would work too.

 

[tone]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Hey guys, thanks for the tips!

ErikH,
I keep forgetting that that guitar was Ash. Do northern hard ash and swamp ash have tonal similarities? Also, how much noise would I get from the Aps1? I've been using only Lace sensors as far as single coils go, so I'm not sure what the noise would be like from a non noiseless pickup.

About the '78 EVH. How would you guys describe the EQ curve? The tone chart for the duncan pickups give some number like 4,6,6 etc. for treble, mids, bass. Any estimates on what the EVH would be?

Thanks!

 

[ErikH]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Hey guys, thanks for the tips!

ErikH,
I keep forgetting that that guitar was Ash. Do northern hard ash and swamp ash have tonal similarities? Also, how much noise would I get from the Aps1? I've been using only Lace sensors as far as single coils go, so I'm not sure what the noise would be like from a non noiseless pickup.

Thanks!

I've only played Swamp Ash guitars so I don't know how it would compare tonally to Northern Ash. I'd imagine they'd be similar. Warmoth's site has a wood description section so that may help.

I have an APS-1 sitting here that I have yet to load in to a guitar. Not sure how noisy they are but since they are in the vintage output range, they can't be too bad. Nothing that a bit of good shielding and good grounding can't remedy.

 

[tone]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Thanks for the info, ErikH!


If anyone has info regarding this, please let me know.

"About the '78 EVH. How would you guys describe the EQ curve? The tone chart for the duncan pickups give some number like 4,6,6 etc. for treble, mids, bass. Any estimates on what the EVH would be?

Thanks!"

 

[theodie]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Get the Custom Custom. The EVH sounds VERY much like it and the CC is alot cheaper!! The difference I can really hear is that the CC has a bit more output. Actually, I had a guitar at one point that I had the CC in and I sold it to get an EVH but, I was disapointed (not becasue it didnt sound good) because the EVH sounded so close to the CC. Save your money and get a CC.

 

[tone]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Hi,
Thanks for the info. I've been reading that they sound pretty close, but I'm not really into higher output pickups. That's why I was thinking about the EVH.


Hey guys, If I'm getting either a EVH or CC for a HSS Strat, with just regular Strat 5 way switching, what would I need? Single conducter, or 4 conductor? Long legs or short? What would you guys recomend for pots, and caps if I want a tone pot for the neck single coil, and one for bridge humbucker instead of the middle single coil? If I'm using say, APS-1's for neck and middle, do I need to flip the magnet of the bucker or anything?

Thanks!:beerchug:

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

I've played some 70's Fenders made from heavy ash, and it's brighter and thinner sounding than swamp ash, maybe moreso than maple as well. The heavy ash strat from the 70's actualy weighed more than the typical Les Paul...A little lighter H ash guitar will probably sound closer to swamp ash.

 

[tone]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Thanks for the info!

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

I agree with DANI, CC can't hurt
I love the Alnico 2 Pros for almost any guitar, I love the spongy feel and tone
HOWEVER

I will say, a Little 59 sounds great in the BRIDGE of my 54 Strat RI. I will also add, I love the Dimarzio Virtual Vintage series - delicious Alnico 2 tone!

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

The tones of S. Ash and hardash are quite similar, but hardash has more highs, and is heavier. I feel that eq separation on the hardash is somewhat more obvious than that on the s. ash.

CC is a great pickup. People have already mentioned it.

BUT there is another that I did not see in the previous posts. Antiquity bridge! The only problem is that it might be a little too weak for your tastes, if so just slide off the dun-aged a2 and use a full strength a2 or a3 depending on how much snap you want.

B

 

[tone]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Thanks!

Since the hard ash has more highs than swamp ash, I think I should be alright with the EVH '78.:fingersx:

"Hey guys, If I'm getting either a EVH or CC for a HSS Strat, with just regular Strat 5 way switching, what would I need? Single conducter, or 4 conductor? Long legs or short? What would you guys recomend for pots, and caps if I want a tone pot for the neck single coil, and one for bridge humbucker instead of the middle single coil? If I'm using say, APS-1's for neck and middle, do I need to flip the magnet of the bucker or anything?

Thanks!"

 

[tone]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Any thoughts on using a standard spaced humbucker in a strat using an american standard two point trem?

 

[ErikH]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Any thoughts on using a standard spaced humbucker in a strat using an american standard two point trem?

Sure, why not. If you want to. Maybe my perception isn't as good as others but I hear very little difference between a trembucker and a standard spaced humbucker. If it only came in standard, I'd make due. If the option is there for a trembucker version, then I'd err on the side that the lined up poles help and get the trembucker.

 

[tone]

Re: What humbucker for this wood?

Thanks ErikH!
Is the difference noticeable by looking at the two pickups side by side, or setup under some strings? Or is it very minimal? I was thinking I might want to try out the pup in another guitar along with the strat, and if it happens to be a non trem guitar like a LP, then going with the trembucker might be a bad move.