What is a Univibe pedal

[Thunder]

Re: What is a Univibe pedal

CAN YOU GET A CLOSE ENOUGH UNIVIBE STYLE SOUND WITH JUST THE COMMON EFFECTS IN A PEDAL BOARD, LIKE A PHASER, TREMOLO, VIBRATO, CHORUS, DELAY, REVERB PEDALS,

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thanks for the replies,

I've gotten a 'mock' Univibe sound with a Script Phase 90, but for real deal sounds you really need a Univibe or clone.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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Guys I read that a univibe pedal is just a phaser/phase shifter that has a
foot control and it gets the Leslie effect,
is it really just a phase shifter, chorus, vibrato,
I want to buy one..... but
could I get the univibe effect with just using phase shifter, chorus and vibrato pedals,
CAN YOU GET A CLOSE ENOUGH UNIVIBE STYLE SOUND WITH JUST THE COMMON EFFECTS IN A PEDAL BOARD, LIKE A PHASER, TREMOLO, VIBRATO, CHORUS, DELAY, REVERB PEDALS
any experience with these pedals,
thanks

Is the univibe effect just a beautiful combination of chorus, vibrato and phaser ?
I want to buy one.... but to anyone owning a univibe pedal,
can you get a univibe effect with just a chorus, vibrato and phaser pedal ?
thanks for the replies,

No, a Univibe is not a combination of chorus, vibrato and phaser...it is a phase shifter of sorts, there is a mode called chorus but it's not the time based chorus that you are thinking about like in a chorus pedal (Boss CE-1, Small Clone, etc).
No, you can not get a univibe sound from with a chorus, vibrato and phaser pedal...
If you want a Univibe get one, they are the only things that will get that sound.

CAN YOU GET A CLOSE ENOUGH UNIVIBE STYLE SOUND WITH JUST THE COMMON EFFECTS IN A PEDAL BOARD, LIKE A PHASER, TREMOLO, VIBRATO, CHORUS, DELAY, REVERB PEDALS,
:scratchch
thanks for the replies,

Well, you've posted the same question 3 times now, I did answer you once but here we try it again...

No, you can not get a univibe sound from with a chorus, vibrato and phaser pedal...alone or together any any combo...

 

[supernosher]

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that's right! close the thread!

 

[millsart]

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No, you can not get a univibe sound from with a chorus, vibrato and phaser pedal...alone or together any any combo...

Sorry but I've got to disagree

Using a phaser and tremolo you can in fact get some sounds that are pretty darn close.

Close enough for the likes of someone who spends $400+ for a true vibe pedal ? Maybe not, but close enough for a guy who just wants to do a Machine Gun cover ? Definatly

The tremolo is really key, its modulation is never going to be in sync with the phaser, so in effect you get some various amounts of modulations which give that "lumpy" effect thats really signature vibe pedal.

Add a chorus to the mix as well and you can get pretty close.

The vibe pedal is really not that different of circuit than a simple 4 stage phaser after all.

 

[bryan the rocker]

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Thanks guys

sorry for the repeated question , just need the opinion of the other owners, :9:


thanks for the info :fing2:,

 

[super rad stuff]

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sounds like i need to get m'self a tremolo pedal:scratchch

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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I disagree completely with that...however if somebody wants to do that Im sure they will...

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

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I was GASing for a vibe for a long while (I think it's all told here in the forum), until I got to try the Fulltone models and the Voodoo Lab Micro-Vibe when they've started importing them to Israel. The had a weak chorus tone mixed with phasing. I've actually liked the tone of the guitar without modulation or with a normal chorus better. There was nothing "Voodoo" or "Hendrix" about them...

I suppose that other models could do a better job but trying the Fulltone models has really killed my GAS for such a pedal.

 

[Thermionik]

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Blates thread hijack here..... JohnnyGuitar - do you know of or about Mary Elizabeth Jennifer Rachel Yiddell Abergavenny Slocombe - or the actress Molly Sugden who played her. Just wondered how you came to choose such an iconic and outrageous avatar :cool2:

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

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:haha:

The show was a worldwide hit. I watched an episode on youtube lately and decided that Mrs. Slocombe would make a fine avatar.

Besides, we both love the same pet...

 

[Tibbonds]

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You could get close with a phaser and a tremelo set to a reeeeally shallow chop IF (and only if) you could get the 2 perfectly sync’d up, but it would be so difficult to do you’d never be able to change the speed on the fly.

I was looking at a mod online the other day for a Small Clone chorus where you use a light cell and LED to add tremolo to the chorus effect. The Tremolo effect is hooked up to the same LFO as the chorus speed, so the trem and chorus are perfectly in sync abd there is an additional pot to increase/decrease/bypass the tremolo depth.

Now then, you’ll never get close to a vibe with a chorus pedal, but I wonder if that mod could be performed on the Small Stone phaser too? If so, you’d be at least in the ballpark of that vibe tone, and it’d cost you the price of a Small Stone plus around £2 for the pot, LED and light cell.

 

[some_dude]

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I was GASing for a vibe for a long while (I think it's all told here in the forum), until I got to try the Fulltone models and the Voodoo Lab Micro-Vibe when they've started importing them to Israel. The had a weak chorus tone mixed with phasing. I've actually liked the tone of the guitar without modulation or with a normal chorus better. There was nothing "Voodoo" or "Hendrix" about them...

I suppose that other models could do a better job but trying the Fulltone models has really killed my GAS for such a pedal.

I've owned a few different vibes now and they all essentially sound the same with minor differences. The Fulltone nails the UniVibe sound, and it's the Fulltone that's used in that Bridge of Sighs clip I posted above (Edit: reposted below). If you weren't too thrilled by that one, you probably wouldn't be too thrilled by any other vibe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0d1HilfLxA

Further, despite being labeled a chorus a UniVibe isn't a chorus pedal... it's a type of phaser. Vibes do about as good a job at doing the chorus thing as the tremolo arm on my Strat does at doing tremolo. Further, something like a Phase 90 will actually give you a stronger phase effect.... UniVibes tend to sound pretty subtle unless used in the manner that Hendrix and Trower do on songs like Machine Gun or Bridge of Sighs.

 

[Tibbonds]

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Just to warn y'all that fancy a vibe on a budget - the Danelectro Cool Cat Vibe is garbage and doesn't sound ANYTHING like a vibe unless you run it really fast, but if you run it that fast you can achieve a similar effect wit a chorus, a phaser or a flanger. For that slow, pulsing, chewey vibe sound, you need a proper vibe.

From clips I've heard, the Dunlop one sounds really good and costs less than a lot of them, though I haven't ever heard one in the flesh. I did once own a Dunlop Rotovibe and that was fine for phasing or vibrato (2 different modes) but it never quite nailed the univibe thing.

 

[Tibbonds]

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Actually one of these could be had on ebay for cheap and will get you in the ballpark:

It is NOT a univibe pedal, but it is a tremolo with a subtle phaser sync'd to the same LFO. You'd have to set the trem depth REALLY low to get anywhere close, but it'd be worth a shot for not much money.

Pretty nice pedal, I had one years back but never tried to get that sound with it.

 

[some_dude]

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From clips I've heard, the Dunlop one sounds really good and costs less than a lot of them, though I haven't ever heard one in the flesh. I did once own a Dunlop Rotovibe and that was fine for phasing or vibrato (2 different modes) but it never quite nailed the univibe thing.

The Dunlop one is pretty good. I sold mine a few years ago when I needed the money. This time around I bought a Fulltone because it was actually cheaper than the Dunlop.

 

[Tibbonds]

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Did you get the Fulltone on a good deal, or is that just how they're priced over there? In the UK the Dunlop is £130 - £150 and I think the fulltone is around £280!

 

[supernosher]

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I was GASing for a vibe for a long while (I think it's all told here in the forum), until I got to try the Fulltone models and the Voodoo Lab Micro-Vibe when they've started importing them to Israel. The had a weak chorus tone mixed with phasing. I've actually liked the tone of the guitar without modulation or with a normal chorus better. There was nothing "Voodoo" or "Hendrix" about them...

I suppose that other models could do a better job but trying the Fulltone models has really killed my GAS for such a pedal.

Maybe the trim pots inside the unit weren't adjusted to your liking...

 

[millsart]

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I disagree completely with that...however if somebody wants to do that Im sure they will...

Did you ever try it though ?

You guys know I know my vibes right, given I've had the Deja Vibe, MojoVibe, UberVibe, Megavibe, and whatever Roger Mayers unit was called, totally blanked but I've had it lol

Phasers can get close. My Maxon PH350, or the Pulsar do a pretty decent sound and the trem really gets that asymetiical lumpy throb effect. Shape Shifter works really well for this

Its not perfect no, but if you use it to play Machine Gun or something, no one in the crowd short of an anal gear obsessed Hendrix fan would really notice the difference.


I can only speak for myself but back when I had my board, I gave some serious thought to perhaps selling my vibe pedals and just going that route. The vibes I didnt use that much and they were all going for $400+ on ebay so it was tempting to sell them and put lots of cash in my pocket if I could still get a similar sound.

 

[some_dude]

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Did you get the Fulltone on a good deal, or is that just how they're priced over there? In the UK the Dunlop is £130 - £150 and I think the fulltone is around £280!

They're currently selling for $299 Cdn... so about £165. I haven't looked at the Dunlop prices lately, but the last Dunlop vibe I bought was just over $300.

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

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I've owned a few different vibes now and they all essentially sound the same with minor differences. The Fulltone nails the UniVibe sound, and it's the Fulltone that's used in that Bridge of Sighs clip I posted above (Edit: reposted below). If you weren't too thrilled by that one, you probably wouldn't be too thrilled by any other vibe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0d1HilfLxA

Further, despite being labeled a chorus a UniVibe isn't a chorus pedal... it's a type of phaser. Vibes do about as good a job at doing the chorus thing as the tremolo arm on my Strat does at doing tremolo. Further, something like a Phase 90 will actually give you a stronger phase effect.... UniVibes tend to sound pretty subtle unless used in the manner that Hendrix and Trower do on songs like Machine Gun or Bridge of Sighs.

That's the sound I like - the few pedals I've tried were pretty weak in all of their settings... and didn't really get me there. I've tried it through a Rivera and with a fuzz in front and behind it... Of course, something might be wrong with me... but it wasn't swirling or phasing like I expected it to - it was just mildly chorusing...

Maybe the trim pots inside the unit weren't adjusted to your liking...

Maybe, but it happened with all 3 models I've tried. The two Fulltones and the Voodoo Lab model.


At the moment I'm enjoying using less effects actually. The Wah and the Rat cover it for me and I hardly plug into my delay or my flanger... I suppose I'll give it a try someday.