youngthrasher9
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What noise gate do you guys suggest I purchase? The most I could spend on it is around $120. I think it would be a useful tool for home recording.
What noise gate?
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Jay 77
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Re: What noise gate?
I wouldn't worry about it for home recording, assuming you're digital? Unwanted noise in between playing is just a highlight - ctrl+x away.
I wouldn't worry about it for home recording, assuming you're digital? Unwanted noise in between playing is just a highlight - ctrl+x away.
youngthrasher9
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Re: What noise gate?
I'm not digital. I usually mic or use the emulated out on my amp, either way gives a lot of white noise.
I'm not digital. I usually mic or use the emulated out on my amp, either way gives a lot of white noise.
ratherdashing
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But you're recording onto your computer, right? You can remove the noise there after recording. There are plenty of ways to do that.
But you're recording onto your computer, right? You can remove the noise there after recording. There are plenty of ways to do that.
zenmindbeginner
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Re: What noise gate?
ISP Decimator
ISP Decimator
ericmeyer4
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I used the Boss one about 10 years ago. I found it easier to just turn off the guitar between song of when I wasn't playing. Then I started looking at all of the places where noise could get in and worked to remedy those.
I shielded the guitar cavities, used quality cables, use a pedal power supply with isolated transformers (like the Voodoo Labs ISO5/PP2) instead of daisy chains, physical placement of the pedals (wah next to power supply = tons of noise), use a good power conditioner, etc.
When recording I also keep the amp and pedal levels loud enough to give me the tone I want, but quiet enough that there isn't any more white noise than there needs to be.
Like others have said stay away from computers when recording. If I touch my laptop I get all kinds of weird noises coming through the guitar.
Are you running a lot of pedals? IIRC a buffer before your pedals can help knock down the noise because you are running a low impedance signal through your pedals which is more resistant to noise. Don't hold me to this I can't find my reference at the moment. I could be way off base.
As for noise gate recommendations my only experience is with the Boss NS-2. It did what it was suppose to do, but it wasn't for me. I've heard good things about the ISP Decimator, but I don't know how well it functions.
I used the Boss one about 10 years ago. I found it easier to just turn off the guitar between song of when I wasn't playing. Then I started looking at all of the places where noise could get in and worked to remedy those.
I shielded the guitar cavities, used quality cables, use a pedal power supply with isolated transformers (like the Voodoo Labs ISO5/PP2) instead of daisy chains, physical placement of the pedals (wah next to power supply = tons of noise), use a good power conditioner, etc.
When recording I also keep the amp and pedal levels loud enough to give me the tone I want, but quiet enough that there isn't any more white noise than there needs to be.
Like others have said stay away from computers when recording. If I touch my laptop I get all kinds of weird noises coming through the guitar.
Are you running a lot of pedals? IIRC a buffer before your pedals can help knock down the noise because you are running a low impedance signal through your pedals which is more resistant to noise. Don't hold me to this I can't find my reference at the moment. I could be way off base.
As for noise gate recommendations my only experience is with the Boss NS-2. It did what it was suppose to do, but it wasn't for me. I've heard good things about the ISP Decimator, but I don't know how well it functions.
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Grindspine
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^ what ericmeyer said...
Shield your guitar cavity
use high quality shielded cables
a buffer helps with longer cable runs or through multiple effects
an isolated power supply (or fresh batteries) for pedals
use only enough gain/volume for the tone you want
get good with the volume knob as soon as you stop playing
That being said, my Triaxis 2:ninety setup still has a slight bit of hiss (white noise). I have a gate (in a TC G-major) set with a very low threshhold, so that it only kicks into the gate after notes have completely sustained and faded. Tight gates are horrible for cutting sustain and cutting out some of the sparkle from your sound.
I have previously used a Hush system and found it horrible. That was before going through my system to eliminate noise though. I have heard good things about the Decimator, but also heard that it is based on the Hush circuit.
Whatever you go with.. the more noise you can eliminate WITHOUT a gate, the better. The gate itself should be the very last effort to suck out the tiny residual noise after the rest is reasonably eliminated.
^ what ericmeyer said...
Shield your guitar cavity
use high quality shielded cables
a buffer helps with longer cable runs or through multiple effects
an isolated power supply (or fresh batteries) for pedals
use only enough gain/volume for the tone you want
get good with the volume knob as soon as you stop playing
That being said, my Triaxis 2:ninety setup still has a slight bit of hiss (white noise). I have a gate (in a TC G-major) set with a very low threshhold, so that it only kicks into the gate after notes have completely sustained and faded. Tight gates are horrible for cutting sustain and cutting out some of the sparkle from your sound.
I have previously used a Hush system and found it horrible. That was before going through my system to eliminate noise though. I have heard good things about the Decimator, but also heard that it is based on the Hush circuit.
Whatever you go with.. the more noise you can eliminate WITHOUT a gate, the better. The gate itself should be the very last effort to suck out the tiny residual noise after the rest is reasonably eliminated.
youngthrasher9
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Re: What noise gate?
Thanks guys. I'll probably just skip the gate and buy the wah I want.
Thanks guys. I'll probably just skip the gate and buy the wah I want.
USAPatriot
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A dedicated ground wire too! We got burned out of our home last Summer, were just able to move back in on the 24th and during the rebuild I put in a dedicated ground wire myself, running from the second floor small bedroom down and out to a foot long steel spike near the AC unit in the back yard. There's a clear and obvious difference between using the new wire versus just plugging into the wall or the UPS that I plug into. The JCA22H is very nearly silent when idling unless I'm on the OD channel with the master up past about 3, when I'm hooked to the ground wire, but without it there's an obvious and common tube-hum unless the volume is at 1 or below. Nor am I getting the ghost-hum that vanishes when you touch the guitar strings or jack. It's all just as quiet as is possible for a tube amp, I think.
There's still valid reasons for using a noise gate though. The noise from hitting extraneous notes and strings get cut off if the volume is below the threshold, you don't hear sliding fingers, etc. I've got 2 NS-2's built into my BOSS GT-10 that work pretty well, but I don't think they are as good as a Decimator. -Rod-
A dedicated ground wire too! We got burned out of our home last Summer, were just able to move back in on the 24th and during the rebuild I put in a dedicated ground wire myself, running from the second floor small bedroom down and out to a foot long steel spike near the AC unit in the back yard. There's a clear and obvious difference between using the new wire versus just plugging into the wall or the UPS that I plug into. The JCA22H is very nearly silent when idling unless I'm on the OD channel with the master up past about 3, when I'm hooked to the ground wire, but without it there's an obvious and common tube-hum unless the volume is at 1 or below. Nor am I getting the ghost-hum that vanishes when you touch the guitar strings or jack. It's all just as quiet as is possible for a tube amp, I think.
There's still valid reasons for using a noise gate though. The noise from hitting extraneous notes and strings get cut off if the volume is below the threshold, you don't hear sliding fingers, etc. I've got 2 NS-2's built into my BOSS GT-10 that work pretty well, but I don't think they are as good as a Decimator. -Rod-
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