Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

[Snake Aces]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

I hope you guys feel real good about yourselves. I've never seen it take so many people to go after 1 guy. You should all be ashamed.

Is this going to turn into another Tonewoods situation? How does a guy with 60 posts suddenly create a large ignore list of their own? Now, out of the blue, the new guy is taking sides with guess who again... Am I experiencing deja vu here?

 

[MrTondo]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

Guys are most skill and performance focussed in general, girls are more expression and interaction focussed.

Just see the kind of music they like, I mean how many guys like Justin Bieber etc.?

If they want to sell to women they need to start appealing to women in a female way. They need different marketing indeed. Because in the end guitar playing can be very emotional, sweet, expressive and interactive indeed. It can also be very technical, flashy, bold, super cool etc. But that appeals more to men than to women.

For women you need to create a 'lifestyle-image" that is appealing to them. Say make a clip something like this: A regular (modern) woman coming home from work grabs her xxx (insert brand) guitar and drops onto the couch and plays 4 simple chords singing: may boss really sucks, Or some other expression of how their day was. That is appealing, a way to vent through a hobby.

Or maybe clip of a (to a guy somewhat cheesy) duet between een guy on acoustic and girl with electric having a emotional ballad together, with the girl clearly in the lead in the musical expression department. Nothing to crazy difficult, just expressive and emotional. I guess that would appeal more to a woman.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

Before I come up with a unified opinion:

I think it is sad that we cannot have this kind of conversation in a forum section that is readable to the public. There are people I'd like to point to this either FYI or to hear their opinion.

Could be solved either by having a "music" labeled subforum open (separate from non-music off-topc) or an open and a closed off-topic one.

:sad:

What are you talking about? This is the guitar shop anyone can read this.

 

[verbotenco]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

My ignore list is filling up rather fast.

Does anyone remember what this thread was about?

Good for you. Some people refrain from using the ignore list to keep the 'trolls' at bay cause the 'trolls' keep them entertained, creating that feel-good effect about their already sorry-ass situation. Misery loves company.

@TONEWOODS: Dude if you are here, get a new ****ing username and stir things up a little bit with your MIT-level intelligence (That's a cordial invitation by the way).

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

Precisely what I was thinking. I don't think calling someone that is acceptable. Nor do I think the sneaky attempt at squeaking in a curse word is OK either. REPORTED! Of Course, he has me on ignore, so he probably has no clue that I did so. And if he can see this post, I don't care. Not cool whether it is coming from him or going at him.

Of course, by quoting my quote of an offensive quote, your post should now be deleted for offensive language.

 

[GoldenVulture]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

What are you talking about? This is the guitar shop anyone can read this.

I think some one laced his birdseed with acid.

 

[Securb]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

I hope you guys feel real good about yourselves. I've never seen it take so many people to go after 1 guy. You should all be ashamed.

'Don't confuse my personality with my attitude. My personality is who I am. My attitude depends on who you are.' — Frank Ocean

 

[Myaccount876]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

I hope you guys feel real good about yourselves. I've never seen it take so many people to go after 1 guy. You should all be ashamed.

To be fair, a lot of us have tried to make peace but were rejected. I do wish that people would simply just ignore combative posters (for real, not just put them on their list) in general, because then there will be no one to argue with, and they'll leave once they figure out they're talking to themselves.

Back on topic, I'd really like to see a female cover band of Type O Negative. I think it'd be hilarious, entertaining, and really damn cool all at the same time. They just might have to sing a few octaves higher haha.

 

[Snake Aces]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

Good for you. Some people refrain from using the ignore list to keep the 'trolls' at bay cause the 'trolls' keep them entertained, creating that feel-good effect about their already sorry-ass situation. Misery loves company.

@TONEWOODS: Dude if you are here, get a new ****ing username and stir things up a little bit with your MIT-level intelligence (That's a cordial invitation by the way).

Why encourage somebody who has been banned to break the rules and create a new account?

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

Why encourage somebody who has been banned to break the rules and create a new account?

Why not? He did it himself...

 

[Snake Aces]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

Why not? He did it himself...

True story.

 

[DreX]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

For women you need to create a 'lifestyle-image" that is appealing to them. Say make a clip something like this: A regular (modern) woman coming home from work grabs her xxx (insert brand) guitar and drops onto the couch and plays 4 simple chords singing: may boss really sucks, Or some other expression of how their day was. That is appealing, a way to vent through a hobby.

They'd have to make sure it's a younger woman in the ad. I'd bet most adults don't have the kind of lifestyle that allows them to come home and drop everything and pick up a guitar, not before they've gone through the mail and made dinner and fed their dogs and so on. It describes a teenager's lifestyle perfectly, though.

 

[DreX]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

There are plenty of archtop guitars that fit this bill. This one by Godin was like 600$ brand new.

That looks pretty nice, though I don't know about that pick guard. I showed a pic of that guitar to my wife and asked if she'd be more enthusiastic about playing a guitar if it looked like that, she said "oh wow! sure", so now maybe all they have to do is get some female endorsements to model the guitar.

OTOH this isn't really an electric guitar and doesn't require many, if any, aftermarket guitar accessories, so it falls short of the this thread's original goal.

 

[voggin]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

That looks pretty nice, though I don't know about that pick guard. I showed a pic of that guitar to my wife and asked if she'd be more enthusiastic about playing a guitar if it looked like that, she said "oh wow! sure", so now maybe all they have to do is get some female endorsements to model the guitar.

OTOH this isn't really an electric guitar and doesn't require many, if any, aftermarket guitar accessories, so it falls short of the this thread's original goal.

you can get that model with either a pickguard pickup or one or two P90s. They are actually pretty neat guitars.

I think that, even if you got large numbers of women to play and buy guitars, they would never be as big into the aftermarket stuff as guys. I think that desire to tinker is largely male tendency. As many women as men have cars, but it's usually the guys you see hot rodding and hanging around parts swap meets and such. At the risk of being sexist, I think it's that interest in tinkering and messing around with things that explains why more men get into fiddly hobbies like model ship building and gun restoration (and pickup swapping!) than women.

 

[Muffleberry]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

Wow, if I ignore one, two more pop up. What are you guys like 10 years old or something?

Why doesn't SD contact women like Lita Ford, LzzyHale, etc, etc, and ask them what would appeal to them? I'm sure it wouldn't be much of a problem to pull off with their resources.

 

[DreX]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

This is what my ignore list looks like, a bunch of guys who just happen to like to also hang out at TMRZoo.com forums, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with why we don't seem to get along:

Agileguy_101 beaubrummels Big Flannel CTN darthphineas dominus Dr. Vegetable ExplorersRock formula73 Funkfingers GoldenVulture jon the art guy kramersteen LesStrat LReese Myaccount876 Oinkus Securb SnakeAces

 

[voggin]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

Wow, if I ignore one, two more pop up. What are you guys like 10 years old or something?

Why doesn't SD contact women like Lita Ford, LzzyHale, etc, etc, and ask them what would appeal to them? I'm sure it wouldn't be much of a problem to pull off with their resources.

I guess the issue with those two examples is whether the bulk of their fan base is male or female.

I don't think it will work to market to women simply by substituting "male guitar god x" for "female guitar god x". I think the "self-expression" tactic floated by some earlier posters would work better. Then again, I'm no marketing expert.

 

[voggin]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

This is what my ignore list looks like, a bunch of guys who just happen to like to also hang out at TMRZoo.com forums, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with why we don't seem to get along:

Agileguy_101 beaubrummels Big Flannel CTN darthphineas dominus Dr. Vegetable ExplorersRock formula73 Funkfingers GoldenVulture jon the art guy kramersteen LesStrat LReese Myaccount876 Oinkus Securb SnakeAces

So much for my feeble attempts at getting back to the topic the OP intended instead of ignore lists.

BTW, a lot of the guys on your list DreX really know their stuff. You're missing out on good information on a lot of topics.

 

[DreX]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

So much for my feeble attempts at getting back to the topic the OP intended instead of ignore lists.

BTW, a lot of the guys on your list DreX really know their stuff. You're missing out on good information on a lot of topics.

I don't ignore them for a lack of "knowing their stuff".

I have a rule, for every ten off topic / derailment posts the TMRZoo guys post, I'll allow myself one, by my count I still have a few more to spare yet.

 

[Snake Aces]

Re: Why Aren't there More Female Guitar Players, Especially Electric?

This is what my ignore list looks like, a bunch of guys who just happen to like to also hang out at TMRZoo.com forums, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with why we don't seem to get along:

Agileguy_101 beaubrummels Big Flannel CTN darthphineas dominus Dr. Vegetable ExplorersRock formula73 Funkfingers GoldenVulture jon the art guy kramersteen LesStrat LReese Myaccount876 Oinkus Securb SnakeAces

First of all you should not post things like this publicly. Secondly, I have never hung out at TMRZoo.com or whatever it's called. Do some actual research sometime buddy. Admit it, I am on your ignore list because I asked questions you do not have an answer for. It's really that simple. Also, all of the names on your little list are forum veterans who have been around here a lot longer than you. Like kramersteen said, try listening to some of those guys sometime, you might learn something.