Why does Peavey gear tend to not retain its value?

[MetalManiac]

Re: Why does Peavey gear tend to not retain its value?

it's the stupid looking logo.

heh. not sure about all this. take a mesa Triple Recto. ive seen them going for less than a grand-way less.New they are way over 2 grand.
i got my peavey 6505 , with 4x12 cabinet for 375.00 cash. the head alone sells for 999.00 new.I did have an offer for 850 for both head and cabinet'
It's just the market for used gear has tanked across the board, and for the most part, no matter what brand.

 

[Demanic]

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I am more than willing to buy Peaveys for small cash because they are not "Marshall" or "Mesa" or "Fender". I play bass through a variety of Peaveys and have no complaints.

 

[DreX]

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There's a lot more practice/garage band grade gear on the used market in general. For every one pro guitarist, there's probably twenty or more amateurs selling their practice amps, so you have a glut of supply at the bottom and a drought at the top. You see less depreciation with Macs and American made guitars for the same reason; not so much that they've retained a higher utility value over time, but fewer were sold new, therefore fewer exist to be sold used.

 

[Securb]

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A big part of it too is they are based in Mississippi and people here in the South want to back a local manufacturer.

I do find it interesting when I travel down South to Nashville or Texas all I see is Peavey. Last time I was in Nashville I think I saw one Fender and another oddball amp, every other guitarist played Peavey. Here in the Northeast you will see Peaveys but most of the pro guys are playing Fenders or Marshalls. That being said the players in Nashville are the best collection of guitarists I have ever seen. Not once did I see a guy playing a Peavey and think his tone was lacking in any way. On the flipside with Gibson being right in Nashville it seems like it is still a Fender town.

 

[voggin]

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I have a friend who has one of those. It's the HSH version. I really want to add one to my stable.



Count me in too.



You might be talking about the T-30. It was unique in that the pickups were "square-ish", with "bar" pole pieces. Like half a Hot Rail. I just snagged one recently. Killer axe. I love all of my MIA Patriots and Predator too. Great guitars, without even saying "for the money". Just great guitars.

Yeah that's the one!

 

[Boogie Bill]

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I have a friend who has one of those. It's the HSH version. I really want to add one to my stable.

Yeah, that's the Horizon II. Actually, it was probably one the THE BEST MADE guitars I've ever owned--it was simply flawless. Beautiful sunburst finish; and the vibrato was terrific. Nice case with it too--very innovative.

Two things didn't work for me. One was that it was a short scale guitar; I never got comfortable with the neck. And the controls were the type that split the coils as you rolled the tone down, and it just didn't work well for my situation.

I actually bought it new and wound up selling for more money than what I paid and it lasted about 3.2 seconds in the want ads. Very cool guitar.

These days, I would love to find one of the Milestone 12-strings. They pop up every now and then.

Bill

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Why does Peavey gear tend to not retain its value?

The original Vandenberg, the 70s T-60, and the doubleneck Hydra were the best guitars Peavey made.

They also made lawsuit replicas of Marshall and Mesa cabs and speakers.


People slag their SS practice amps, but almost everyone had one. They were the first one to get the "tube sound" from transistors accurately enough to fool the die-hard tube snobs.

However, I know when I hear a Peavey P.A. - and that's not a compliment.

 

[Securb]

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However, I know when I hear a Peavey P.A. - and that's not a compliment.

I just sold my Peavey P.A.. It sounded great for keys and guitar synth but was horrible for vocals, the reverb was a joke. I broke down and bought a "decent" keyboard amp and a great P.A.

 

[Artie]

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And the controls were the type that split the coils as you rolled the tone down, and it just didn't work well for my situation.

It's funny how often people ask for that. There's a current thread where someone is asking how to do spin-a-split, and keep the tone control . . . in one knob.
I posted the Peavey circuit.

 

[Inflames626]

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it's the stupid looking logo.

It's not that different from the Metallica logo really. And I could always identify the gear by that pointy P better than I could with the script logo they sometimes used in the early 00s (like on my Rotor).

 

[Inflames626]

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What always bummed me out about Peavey growing up in the 80s and 90s is they looked like your Dad's amp--precisely because they were made for blues, country, and classic rock joints in the South. A lot of the guitars are just butt ugly.

Those of us who liked sleeker designs could never find them locally and had to order them, usually from Cali, and usually no one could afford it because anything that said Jackson or ESP was usually $1500+ (in the early 90s). This was before the Musician's Friend/Guitar Center Wal-Mart-ification of gear back in the late 90s.

I see a lot of expensive gear still on Reverb.com. I don't think the price of gear has tanked really. There's some horribly cheap stuff, and there's a sweet spot where there's value. But there also seems to be a big hole in the upper midrange. I see some Jackson neck thru SLAT Soloists going for $700-800 beginning to fill this.

Of course what I'm seeking is a Duncan/DiMarzio/EMG neck thru job with wiring options and an OFR for less than $1000 retail. Still waiting, but I can usually build something with the same features for about $700 at the least.

Around $1200 seems to be the low end for American made mass produced models now.

Someone told me you could get a Dual Rec for $800. I wanted to know what planet he was on. I rarely saw them online for less than $1200.

I do think there's been a massive taste change in gear though just over the last 5 years--away from tons of features, active pickups, four channel amps (except for my metal friends who love Axe FX and Kemper units), toward the less is more vintage sound and gear sensibility. I think it's a backlash against overproduced software made music. Something about people bringing their laptops to gigs just seems inauthentic as far as rock and roll.

 

[Inflames626]

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Also if you get into the metal GAS "gear culture" of YouTube (usually defined by whatever Keith Merrow, Ola Englund, Tosin Abasi, Misah Mansoor, and other YouTube sensations have posted recently), you'll find that gear prices for complex custom jobs with elaborate electronics (I always come back to the Graph Tech Ghost system) have hardly dropped.

Djent guys are bad for encouraging GAS.

My speed is, for example, something like this, which I would like to see standard, but it won't happen because some people just want to play Beatles and Creedence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM6mQGJvzkU

And this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdFLT7LH-H8

Things like this I'd rather have than paying $2000 for something because it says Fender. Why? You get more capability. But you also get what Rick Hunt at EMG calls "cue guitars"--guitars that you need an instruction manual to operate.

 

[Inflames626]

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Also, IIRC, the Peavey Voids and Tragics from the mid 00s that Devin Townsend was endorsing are ugly as sin but they come with some great features for the price. I've seen Kahlers and EMGs in them, neck thru as well, for around $400-600 dollars.

 

[Edgecrusher]

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I just sold my Peavey P.A.. It sounded great for keys and guitar synth but was horrible for vocals, the reverb was a joke. I broke down and bought a "decent" keyboard amp and a great P.A.

For me Peavey PA's bring back memories of high school dances and being told to turn down my half stack cause i was drowning out the SP2's with a little 4 channel head... One band I played with even had these old peavey cabs that had. 2x15's 2x10's and 2 horns in each box... and I think 200 watts power handling. They weighed a ton and required 4 guys or a hand truck to move.

 

[the toad]

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It does quite well if you buy it used.

 

[DMR]

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heh. not sure about all this. take a mesa Triple Recto. ive seen them going for less than a grand-way less.New they are way over 2 grand.
i got my peavey 6505 , with 4x12 cabinet for 375.00 cash. the head alone sells for 999.00 new.I did have an offer for 850 for both head and cabinet'
It's just the market for used gear has tanked across the board, and for the most part, no matter what brand.

True. I see lots of Mesa amps on craigslist for well under what they go for on ebay. Personally, I never really viewed Peavey as "cheap", at least not any more so than other brands. Maybe because I started with guitar around 1990 and at that time plenty of companies were already hitting the lower price points. I always kind of viewed Peavey as more of a meat n' potatoes type of brand, light on the flashiness sported by other amps but delivering where it counts.

 

[Demanic]

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A lot of their ss stuff is bulletproof, especially the older stuff. Though a friend of mine just had to have the filter caps replaced on what is probably a 90's vintage Firebass head. Nothing wrong with their tone either. If you do your part, in both dialing in and playing, you will be heard in a crowd.

 

[Chazzy]

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Idk, ive tried many peavey solidstate stuff, it all sucks imo.. could never get any good tones outta of them, but my 6534+ sounds great... and it needs a tube change right now but still sounds amazing!