Why don't people take care of thier instruments?

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Just doing some work on a few pretty miserable guitars today that have never had any maintenance done on them at all and was wondering why ? Not good to start with an Axl Strat, Aria Pro II Strat , and an Oscar Schmidt acoustic that got drowned. If I had them I would have done some simple upgrades and tuned them up at least to be an average guitar , mostly would try and get them to stay in tune, intonate and play comfortably.
 
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why don't people take care of their children? or their pets? or their cars? or their gardens? or their septic tanks? etc etc until the end of time.


I actually like seeing busted up neglected guitars if I have the opportunity to get my hands on them and fix them up. It's a repair challenge and is certainly more exciting than setting up a guitar that's been babied.
 
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A number of players, who normally take of their things, think it's okay to bang around their guitars and let them get scratched up, dented, and gouged. The reasoning being 'That's rock and roll', or as I see it: 'That's lazy and irresponsible.' In spite of claims to the contrary, every guitar gets sold eventually (usually by the original owner, sometimes by his heirs), and the better the condition it's in, the more it's worth. There's a lot of guys that get a rude awakening when they go to sell a banged up guitar and find out it's only worth a fraction of what they paid for it. All it takes over the course of years is a few minutes to put a guitar back in it's case, or set it down when you're doing something else. I doubt anyone is that pressed for time that they don't have a few seconds a day to spare.
 
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You know I don't wash my car either
Hmmm

I don't buy instruments to resell , nor cars

I get them to use
When they become unacceptable for the purpose intended , I replace them

If you find value in the discarded item great
If not oh well

If you are paid to renovate these then I have provided you employment
You can thank me later or now if you wish

*(Sent from my durned phone!)*
 
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I cut my modding teeth on an old Aria Pro II strat. Swapped the bridge single for a Dimarzio Fast 2 and turned it into a metal machine. Though I must say, the stock single coils are quite an interesting design: hex pole pieces with a dual magnet on the bottom as I recall.
 
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I buy them to use... I could not care less if my relatives sell them after I'm dead and get less because i have used them. To me they are tools to make music and I will use them as such. Even my rare guitars get played no i dont go out of the way to abuse them but they do get used sometimes hard. ( I guess I should clarify I have even purchased some before specifically to abuse in about 1996 I bought a already well used Ibanez RG550 specifically to make it a trunk guitar)

For me a guitar that sits in a case and only comes out to be rubbed with a diaper is worthless, Iam also not going to be shy and act like a leper when i strap that guitar on. I dont worry about belt buckle rash or if the smoke in the bar is going to damage the finish. I dont get the "you will ruin its re- sale value" crap. They are not investments they are instruments.
 
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There's grime, and then there's neglect. Trying to chip out calcified beer before working on a guitar is a pain. i once worked on a Charvel used in a punk band that had really old, crusty fried chicken under the pickups, all inside everywhere it could get.
Stuff like costs extra in my shop.
 
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Just doing some work on a few pretty miserable guitars today that have never had any maintenance done on them at all and was wondering why ? Not good to start with an Axl Strat, Aria Pro II Strat , and an Oscar Schmidt acoustic that got drowned. If I had them I would have done some simple upgrades and tuned them up at least to be an average guitar , mostly would try and get them to stay in tune, intonate and play comfortably.

Were those guitars that were currently being played, or ones that had fallen into disuse?
 
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When I had gotten to that Aria, it had only two rusty strings on it, about an 1/8" of grime everywhere and a child had written her name as a claim on the headstock in black sharpie.
 
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For me a guitar that sits in a case and only comes out to be rubbed with a diaper is worthless, Iam also not going to be shy and act like a leper when i strap that guitar on. I dont worry about belt buckle rash or if the smoke in the bar is going to damage the finish. I dont get the "you will ruin its re- sale value" crap. They are not investments they are instruments.

Do you bang around your TV and computer too? Do they look like you let them in the middle of the road? Is your new car quickly covered in dents and deep scratches from 'hard use'? I don't see why some people think a guitar is something to toss around. Yes, it's a tool, but how many extra seconds does it take to keep it in nice condition? No one's that busy.
 
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Earth to blueman. Not everybody is you. Get over it.

I bought a new guitar today. I took it home sans case or gig bag. It just rode shotgun.

I hope your tiny head didn't explode reading that.
 
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There is basic maintenance that should be done on any guitar and I don't understand purposely abusing an instrument, but at the same time, I hate the collector mindset where everything has to look pristine. Guitars are meant to be played, not babied. Enjoy them and stop worrying about the little things!
 
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I think in terms of causing dings and scratches, we have to tell ourselves that they are just tools because the wood and finish are very delicate, and once they are dinged they can be difficult or impossible to return them to new condition without a ton of work, so we just have to think about it in terms that keep us from shedding tears over it. That's why it's probably a good idea to ask one's self "how will this guitar look with a few fat dents?" when shopping around, and that's where solid color Fenders really seem to shine. I bought MIJ Fender with a nice Koa veneer, and it definitely won't take dings too gracefully, so I have to keep that one far away from any danger.

As for Cheeto dust in every crevice, some people just don't even see or feel that sort of thing. As for intonation and the like, most guitarists I know stick with their guitar's stock setup and have no inclination to adjust anything.
 
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Do you bang around your TV and computer too? Do they look like you let them in the middle of the road? Is your new car quickly covered in dents and deep scratches from 'hard use'? I don't see why some people think a guitar is something to toss around. Yes, it's a tool, but how many extra seconds does it take to keep it in nice condition? No one's that busy.

I dont strap my tv or my computer to my body and move around stage. I get it im sure your the type that hides yourself curled up in one spot between your amp and the drum riser only bobbing your head to the kick drum. But not all people are like that. You do realize my guitars are not neglected right? They are all set up and maintained (for PLAYING that is). I just dont baby them. Dents and scrapes happen and i dont get bunged up when they do. I dont sit there and try to polish out the pick scrapes after every night. My nitro guitars tend to develop a spot on the body where I anchor my fingers. In my mind wear and tear is the cost of doing business.

As far as my car goes... I'm from Idaho where a truck is a frigging truck. If i want to haul lava rock in the bed or I have to crawl down the side of a canyon through fir trees to haul out an elk ive shot I sure as hell dont flinch when I do it.
 
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There is something about a solid-color gloss finish on a guitar that seems to take a ding or a chip better than, say, a translucent finish like a burst. The solid color (usually black, in my case) is this perfect, uninterrupted field of unnatural, unearthly shine, like a Chiclet, over top of a piece of wood. A tree. Something porous and imperfect and full of natural grain and things not programmed into a CNC machine or hand-shaped just so. This is probably my own particular kink, but sometimes I think the wood is singing, screaming, to get out, and when I see that little paint chip that goes just down to the wood, I feel like it's succeeding. I don't do this stuff on purpose to my guitars, but I don't feel bad when it happens despite what I consider reasonable precautions.

On the other hand, I like the translucent finishes to stay nice, and so far they have. I take a little more care with them, because for me the aesthetic downside would be a bummer. I think the finish, and the wood grain you can see through it, are already an imperfect, beautiful thing that takes on a slightly random perfection that would be disrupted by a ding or a chip -- in a way that I wouldn't like.

Cars, TV's, computers -- there's no natural material in those, I guess, so no tree spirits trying to get out. No subtle, uncalculated texture in the molded plastic bezel on my plasma TV, caused by years of growing in the soil and wind and rain.

Just how I see it in my own deranged, quasi-artistic perspective.
 
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Earth to blueman. Not everybody is you. Get over it.

I bought a new guitar today. I took it home sans case or gig bag. It just rode shotgun.

I hope your tiny head didn't explode reading that.

Maybe when you grow up, you'll learn to take care of your possessions. Well, maybe not.
 
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Thier stuff is pretty wierd, but maybe that's why.

- http://thiervandaalen.com/2010/10/forget-me-not/ -

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This is (almost) up my alley... This may not be exactly an answer to your question, but I can say that I take care of all of my instruments almost religiously... I don't even like dirty clothes touching the floor within a two foot radius of my equipment. I took my Starcaster Strat and did massive amounts of work on it by myself. First I sanded that plastic wrap they called a finish down a far as possible without compromising the color (except for about a four inch wide strip down the middle), then I move to doing the same with the neck I made an oil mixture out of my own "secret recipe" and refinished the back so it's slightly faster than before. Then, through the wonderful wiring diagrams SD has immediately at hand, my dad and I did a simple pickup combo with the bridge and middle pickup. It's slightly oversaturated and doesn't take compression too well, but it was miles better than position 2 and 4 without the mini-bucker mod. I changed out my trem springs and tightened the plate to make it as similar to a stop tail as possible. Through all of this, I've made a $100 guitar package into a very workable, road-worthy tone machine. The intonation is near perfection, the action is very comfortably low, and it I will bet my liver that it will kill any Tele, Les Paul, or even an American Standard Strat (that's right, I said it...) at jazz, blues, or even indie. All I need now is to do some wire work to fix the screwed up grounding and buzz problem, and completely change out the trem along with getting some locking tuners. So all this is to say, it depends on what the guitar is worth to the person who owns it.

I for one want to open a custom shop that works exclusively on rigs costing under $300 - $400 (check the link in my sig). Cheaper rigs to me deserve just as much love as a $3000 professional setup, and to anyone who attributes a guitar's worth to its price clearly doesn't truly love the craft...
 
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