beaubrummels
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If you go Custom Shop, don't bother trying to tell them what wire to use and how many K to make it. Tell them you want a JB (sound) with lower output and let them determine what recipe will make that happen.
Why is there no underwound JB?
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I know i don't want 44awg and nothing hotter than 16k, why would i not tell them? a "JB sound with lower output" is WAY too broad, that could be anything from a PAF-output to anything in between...
also custom shop is apparently impossible in europe anyway, see post #18
ErikH
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The PB is hotter than you think. DC resistance does equal output. I have one and I have a Custom Custom. The Custom Custom is more polite, yet has a higher DC resistance and an Alnico 2 magnet where as the PB has Alnico 5.
If you are dead set on an Alnico 5 pickup, try the PB. I had to tame things down with the CC for what I needed. If you are open to mag swaps to make the JB less hot and less congested, swap the A5 for an A2. You're assuming that what is there is not going to give you what you want without trying it out. I get the Europe thing with not being able to do returns or Custom Shop so try the next easiest thing, swap the mag in the JB to A2 and go from there. It's also the cheapest option.
If you are dead set on an Alnico 5 pickup, try the PB. I had to tame things down with the CC for what I needed. If you are open to mag swaps to make the JB less hot and less congested, swap the A5 for an A2. You're assuming that what is there is not going to give you what you want without trying it out. I get the Europe thing with not being able to do returns or Custom Shop so try the next easiest thing, swap the mag in the JB to A2 and go from there. It's also the cheapest option.
that's basically the RTM right? still not what i want, but maybe the PB would be ok, everything I've heard from it makes it sound like it just lacks some balls though.
sure, but the idea is taking the general EQ, chewiness and aggressiveness of the JB and giving it more clarity and dynamics, using the JB tone as a starting point, NOT the JB specs, only the sound.
ErikH
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In the ballpark. The RTM has more wire on it than a stock JB.
I have a clip of me playing the intro to "Lay It Down" with the PB in my Warmoth Frankenstrat (I've since put the CC in its place for what I need). Hardly a lack of balls. And if your amp doesn't have the goods, no pickup is going to fix that.
Clint 55
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It's something I've been interested in. I would want a lower output bridge model and also a neck model. I was gonna pull the trigger a month ago but the custom shop wasn't accepting new orders. I think it would sound great.
Op: though not a direct solution, what I have been doing is making hybrids with 1 JB coil and 1 lower output coil. I have tried 3 so far, Custom, Distortion neck, and Seth. All good results. The JB coil is still the same obviously but adding a coil of 43 or even 42 makes it less compressed and responds more vintagey while retaining the JB character.
Op: though not a direct solution, what I have been doing is making hybrids with 1 JB coil and 1 lower output coil. I have tried 3 so far, Custom, Distortion neck, and Seth. All good results. The JB coil is still the same obviously but adding a coil of 43 or even 42 makes it less compressed and responds more vintagey while retaining the JB character.
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playas
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You can, but you have to order through a local duncan distributor and pay through the nose, but it can be done.
yeah i rather not do that, if i can have a set of suhr pickups for the same price as duncan production models, that's why I think it would be a good idea.for a new production model, duncan hasn't released anything interesting in the past 5 years besides the hyperions anyway and those are kinda congested sounding anyway IMO
This is the key to getting the order right. Let MJ do her thing.
I don't even know where to place an order in europe because your website doesn't work properly, the link to "international dealers" is dead, and it's unlikely i'll put down $200+ in euro (dealer/import costs etc) for a pickup that I can't even hear before buying.
Aceman
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Have to agree - if you know how to do it better, wind your own!
That is the nature of buying pickups. Many of us take a chance with pickups after some research. Getting something custom made isn't cheap, but it is worth it, when it is exactly what you want. Everyone here who ordered a Custom Shop pickup didn't now what it would sound like until they installed it, which is why we put faith in the most talented pickup winders in the world. If you contact the Custom Shop, they will tell you who your local dealer is, and how to order.
JB6464
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If it was that easy many of the "magnet swapping gods" here on this forum would of been raving about it and answering all the people asking how to get a lower JB pickup for decades .
It might get close it output but I doubt it will have that JB barking midrange .
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JB6464
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According to the SD chart the 59/custom (11.5K) has the same EQ as the JB but they don't sound anything close of being the same .
So if the DD neck is voiced differently then it's not going to have the barking JB tone .
If so , then why have'nt all the mag experts answered this repeating JB question years ago .
Clint 55
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The DD's close in that it has that upper mid spike with as much true highs to go along for a hot pup. It isn't quite as mid punchy though which you notice on single lines. It also has an overall different character. I wasn't trying to say they're the same. The DDn in the bridge is a good but overlooked medium output hum, which there aren't many of in the Duncan line.
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