STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
I use V30s in both my Marshall 1960 A/V 4x12 and also in my Vox 2x12 cab..Both are closed cabs and the V30s are my favorite.I totally don't like the 75 watt Celestions!
I use V30s in both my Marshall 1960 A/V 4x12 and also in my Vox 2x12 cab..Both are closed cabs and the V30s are my favorite.I totally don't like the 75 watt Celestions!
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SeraphimTN
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Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
Hmm...Celestion only makes 2 100 watt 12's that I know of, and I would assume that the H&K branded speakers are simply just stock Celestions with H&K stickers on them. The 2 100 watt Celestinos are the G12T100, which is called the "Hot 100" and the G12K-100...thing is that nether of those speakers should be much (if any) brighter than the G12T75...Im not sure what to tell you now
Hmm...Celestion only makes 2 100 watt 12's that I know of, and I would assume that the H&K branded speakers are simply just stock Celestions with H&K stickers on them. The 2 100 watt Celestinos are the G12T100, which is called the "Hot 100" and the G12K-100...thing is that nether of those speakers should be much (if any) brighter than the G12T75...Im not sure what to tell you now
Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
I've never liked those G12T75's on their own in a cab. Personally I think they're more useful for mixing with V30's in a 4x12. I have a Carvin Legacy cab loaded with V30's and I luuuuuurve it.
Maybe G12T75's just aren't your thing and they aren't a good match for the amp... or both? I for one have never been particularly taken with them.
I've never liked those G12T75's on their own in a cab. Personally I think they're more useful for mixing with V30's in a 4x12. I have a Carvin Legacy cab loaded with V30's and I luuuuuurve it.
Maybe G12T75's just aren't your thing and they aren't a good match for the amp... or both? I for one have never been particularly taken with them.
Virtual Kevorkian
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Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
I love how you ignored the question about the impedance.
I love how you ignored the question about the impedance.
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SeraphimTN
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Rich_S
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Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
Yeah but he has the Marshall cab wired at 16 ohms and the H&K wired at 8. So, there are a couple reasons the Marshall will sound muffled.
1) It's just plain quieter. It's getting half the power the H&K is.
2) It's not breaking up as much. Breakup adds high-end harmonics to the sound, but since the 1960 is running at low power, there's no breakup.
3) The higher reactance of the 16-ohm circuit tends to attenuate highs between the amp and speakers, even before it gets turned into sound you can hear.
I bet if you wired that 1960 for 4 ohms and ran it by itself, it would sound a lot different. Unfortunately, you can't run it at 4 ohms AND the H&K at 8. That would give you 3.2 ohms combined, and your amp has a 4-ohm minimum IIRC.
Yeah but he has the Marshall cab wired at 16 ohms and the H&K wired at 8. So, there are a couple reasons the Marshall will sound muffled.
1) It's just plain quieter. It's getting half the power the H&K is.
2) It's not breaking up as much. Breakup adds high-end harmonics to the sound, but since the 1960 is running at low power, there's no breakup.
3) The higher reactance of the 16-ohm circuit tends to attenuate highs between the amp and speakers, even before it gets turned into sound you can hear.
I bet if you wired that 1960 for 4 ohms and ran it by itself, it would sound a lot different. Unfortunately, you can't run it at 4 ohms AND the H&K at 8. That would give you 3.2 ohms combined, and your amp has a 4-ohm minimum IIRC.
GuitarGuy503
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Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
+1 on mismatched ohm ratings. The head and both cabs MUST have the same ohm rating. If you have a 8ohm head the cab or cabs MUST be 8ohms as well. Years ago I had the same experience. I didn't know you had to match ohm ratings and I had the amp cranked but there was a huge loss of output due to the ohm ratings not being matched.
+1 on mismatched ohm ratings. The head and both cabs MUST have the same ohm rating. If you have a 8ohm head the cab or cabs MUST be 8ohms as well. Years ago I had the same experience. I didn't know you had to match ohm ratings and I had the amp cranked but there was a huge loss of output due to the ohm ratings not being matched.
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MostDangerousGames
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Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
I almost always prefer bluebacks or greenbacks. I have to agree with TGWIF on the G12t75's Celestions :no:
I almost always prefer bluebacks or greenbacks. I have to agree with TGWIF on the G12t75's Celestions :no:
Kommerzbassist
Thunderbirdologist
Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
Whether there's a problem with mismatching or not, I gotta say what everyone else said: the G12-T75 sucks. Imo it has least character of all Celestions. And: I think there could be a reason why the 1960s with those are cheaper than with the other speaker configurations
(the speaker bought itself is aswell)
Whether there's a problem with mismatching or not, I gotta say what everyone else said: the G12-T75 sucks. Imo it has least character of all Celestions. And: I think there could be a reason why the 1960s with those are cheaper than with the other speaker configurations
(the speaker bought itself is aswell)
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SeraphimTN
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Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
Speaker isn't blown, just checked. And the cab sounds the same with only it running....stuffy n scooped. Something tells me these speakers blow. It's gonna cost me a crap load to get v30's won't it, cuz I don't think I'll get crap outta these speakers.
Speaker isn't blown, just checked. And the cab sounds the same with only it running....stuffy n scooped. Something tells me these speakers blow. It's gonna cost me a crap load to get v30's won't it, cuz I don't think I'll get crap outta these speakers.
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SeraphimTN
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Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
No idea, it's brand new from another guy who used it like, 5 hours total. Should I try that? But do I run the risk of doin anything to it? Just switch the wires on the output?
No idea, it's brand new from another guy who used it like, 5 hours total. Should I try that? But do I run the risk of doin anything to it? Just switch the wires on the output?
JeffB
Let it B
Re: Why??(Marshall issues)
Once again, it seems I'm the minority around here....
I like MFs JMPs and 800s better than plexis
I like 75s better than V30s
I tend to like (some) DiMarzio pups more than my faves from Duncan
I Like Vs and explorers and MLs better than strats or teles or les pauls
I think boutique amps/pedals are overrated
I like Adrian Smith better than Dave Murray
I'm gonna go give Al Sharpton a call..I need some help defending my civil rights around this place
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Once again, it seems I'm the minority around here....
I like MFs JMPs and 800s better than plexis
I like 75s better than V30s
I tend to like (some) DiMarzio pups more than my faves from Duncan
I Like Vs and explorers and MLs better than strats or teles or les pauls
I think boutique amps/pedals are overrated
I like Adrian Smith better than Dave Murray
I'm gonna go give Al Sharpton a call..I need some help defending my civil rights around this place
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