Hi all, my first post, hello and drawn to this site looking for help in a long search looking for information to complete a build on my 1972? Coronet. I have been trying to take it back to original after many years not having the switches as another substitute cover plate was used with only 2 vol, 2 tone and 3 position switch were used. I just cannot find information on how to wire in the slide switches. At the moment I have them as on/off switches for the neck and bridge pickups, which works, but I am not sure if this is their purpose. Any ideas or leads?
Wiring 2 slide switches on a Coronet Les Paul Copy
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Re: Wiring 2 slide switches on a Coronet Les Paul Copy
Given there is a 3-way toggle already, it would seem like the sliders could have been more eq type.
I personally have no clue, but my late 60's hagstrom had a bass cut as well as a treble filter operated with similar sliders.
Given there is a 3-way toggle already, it would seem like the sliders could have been more eq type.
I personally have no clue, but my late 60's hagstrom had a bass cut as well as a treble filter operated with similar sliders.
beaubrummels
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Re: Wiring 2 slide switches on a Coronet Les Paul Copy
Lookup the wiring diagram on a Gibson Personal Les Paul with low impedance pickups and/or the Gibson Professional Les Paul with low impedance pickups. You're in for a treat.
Lookup the wiring diagram on a Gibson Personal Les Paul with low impedance pickups and/or the Gibson Professional Les Paul with low impedance pickups. You're in for a treat.
Chistopher
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Re: Wiring 2 slide switches on a Coronet Les Paul Copy
I agree on them probably being high/low pass filters on the switch. Either that or they are phase and master coil cut or two dedicated coil cuts.
I agree on them probably being high/low pass filters on the switch. Either that or they are phase and master coil cut or two dedicated coil cuts.
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Plessure
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Re: Wiring 2 slide switches on a Coronet Les Paul Copy
Phase and series/parallel would be best.
Phase and series/parallel would be best.
beaubrummels
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Wiring 2 slide switches on a Coronet Les Paul Copy
On original Gibsons, one was a phase switch (in/out) and the other was an impedance switch (hi/lo)
Looks like yours has the bass/treble tone controls and a decade switch. I would wire one slider as phase on one pickup and wire the other slider to choose between the tone controls or the decade switch for tone. Need to see a clear photo of the guts of yours to confirm that's what you have.
On original Gibsons, one was a phase switch (in/out) and the other was an impedance switch (hi/lo)
Looks like yours has the bass/treble tone controls and a decade switch. I would wire one slider as phase on one pickup and wire the other slider to choose between the tone controls or the decade switch for tone. Need to see a clear photo of the guts of yours to confirm that's what you have.
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Hi Namreks et al,
I own one of these guitars as well. The guy who fixed mine up told me the switch on the left (looking down as you're playing) is High Output (Left) and Low Output (Right) for the neck pickup and the switch on the right is the same for the bridge pickup. I don't know if that's just how he decided to wire it up based on what I've read in this thread though. I put better tuners on mine but stuffed up the paint job a bit but it's behind the headstock so meh.
Incidentally, does anyone know what kind of pickups are in this thing? I know they're supposed to look like the low impedance Les Paul Recording ones (yet to find a name for Les Paul's ones out there, perhaps they are just referred to as "those low impedence pickups" followed by the long-winded explanation of what he wanted when he wasn't satisfied with those two other models that came before it!), but I have a vague recollection, perhaps a misguided one, I'm not too sure, that the guy who fixed mine said they're not humbuckers, which I suppose, if they're anything like Les Paul's, wouldn't be single coils either.
I'd also like to ask if anyone knows if the guitar and pickups are designed for the pickups to be slanted for any reason? I mean raised on one side and lowered on the other. Mine don't seem to be but I read somewhere that maybe they should be.
Also of note is that my bridge pickup is twice as high as my neck pickup. Any reason for that? Could this be a problem? Seems alright to me. Are there generally any rules about how high or low you have pickups, like if you have them too low could the signal not get picked up as well? Is there a difference between the "pickup itself" and the "pickup sensor" (based on my reading and failure to comprehend)?
Mine doesn't have the pickguard with that bracket kit holding it up like that either, is that standard? Where can I get one?!
It looks like mine came in the same case too!
Thanks all, and to all a goodnight!
Hi Namreks et al,
I own one of these guitars as well. The guy who fixed mine up told me the switch on the left (looking down as you're playing) is High Output (Left) and Low Output (Right) for the neck pickup and the switch on the right is the same for the bridge pickup. I don't know if that's just how he decided to wire it up based on what I've read in this thread though. I put better tuners on mine but stuffed up the paint job a bit but it's behind the headstock so meh.
Incidentally, does anyone know what kind of pickups are in this thing? I know they're supposed to look like the low impedance Les Paul Recording ones (yet to find a name for Les Paul's ones out there, perhaps they are just referred to as "those low impedence pickups" followed by the long-winded explanation of what he wanted when he wasn't satisfied with those two other models that came before it!), but I have a vague recollection, perhaps a misguided one, I'm not too sure, that the guy who fixed mine said they're not humbuckers, which I suppose, if they're anything like Les Paul's, wouldn't be single coils either.
I'd also like to ask if anyone knows if the guitar and pickups are designed for the pickups to be slanted for any reason? I mean raised on one side and lowered on the other. Mine don't seem to be but I read somewhere that maybe they should be.
Also of note is that my bridge pickup is twice as high as my neck pickup. Any reason for that? Could this be a problem? Seems alright to me. Are there generally any rules about how high or low you have pickups, like if you have them too low could the signal not get picked up as well? Is there a difference between the "pickup itself" and the "pickup sensor" (based on my reading and failure to comprehend)?
Mine doesn't have the pickguard with that bracket kit holding it up like that either, is that standard? Where can I get one?!
It looks like mine came in the same case too!
Thanks all, and to all a goodnight!
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beaubrummels
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Re: Wiring 2 slide switches on a Coronet Les Paul Copy
For the pickup question, does the guitar have electrical hum when you play? And how many wires are coming from each pickup and what color are they? If it produces hum when plugged in, they are likely single coil, and if there are two or more wires, then they are likely tapped to do the high/low output thing.
Not sure which you mean by slanted. They are installed slanted with reference to the bridge, e.g. the bass side of the pickups are farther from the bridge. If you mean slanted relative to the height of the strings, that would be only to solve a tone/volume balance problem. If you mean slanted with regard to each other, bridge being higher than the neck pickup is normal, to balance the volume output and follow the string height a bit.
Gibson’s didn’t all have a pickguard. I don’t know about Coronets. I’m assuming they tried to copy Gibsons closely. The one in the OPs picture is not original. Someone took a standard 1-ply Les Paul pickguard and hand cut it around the pickups, if you look close. If you wanted to get closer to what the original Gibson’s had, for the models that actually had one, you’d want to get a 3-5 ply 3-pickup Custom type and cut back both the pickup edge and cut the round end off to match the control plate angle. But I would only bother with all that if the guitar already has the screw holes drilled for a pickguard. I would not recommend adding one if it wasn’t drilled for one before.
Good luck.
For the pickup question, does the guitar have electrical hum when you play? And how many wires are coming from each pickup and what color are they? If it produces hum when plugged in, they are likely single coil, and if there are two or more wires, then they are likely tapped to do the high/low output thing.
Not sure which you mean by slanted. They are installed slanted with reference to the bridge, e.g. the bass side of the pickups are farther from the bridge. If you mean slanted relative to the height of the strings, that would be only to solve a tone/volume balance problem. If you mean slanted with regard to each other, bridge being higher than the neck pickup is normal, to balance the volume output and follow the string height a bit.
Gibson’s didn’t all have a pickguard. I don’t know about Coronets. I’m assuming they tried to copy Gibsons closely. The one in the OPs picture is not original. Someone took a standard 1-ply Les Paul pickguard and hand cut it around the pickups, if you look close. If you wanted to get closer to what the original Gibson’s had, for the models that actually had one, you’d want to get a 3-5 ply 3-pickup Custom type and cut back both the pickup edge and cut the round end off to match the control plate angle. But I would only bother with all that if the guitar already has the screw holes drilled for a pickguard. I would not recommend adding one if it wasn’t drilled for one before.
Good luck.
Re: Wiring 2 slide switches on a Coronet Les Paul Copy
Wow, a lot's happened since October. Thanks for the suggestions. Got a more important question now. It turns out the frets are all uneven and would be too costly to replace. The intonation is terrible and it's impossible to tune. I'm thinking of getting a new neck for it. Anyone know where I can get one that is cut off on an angle at the heal, like the middle pic above kind of shows? To the OP (or anyone who might know) by looking at yours, do you think the headstock is all one piece or could it have a piece of veneer on it, like this one - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-Piece...234109?hash=item3b48e7fefd:g:G94AAOSwz5pdobKc
Wow, a lot's happened since October. Thanks for the suggestions. Got a more important question now. It turns out the frets are all uneven and would be too costly to replace. The intonation is terrible and it's impossible to tune. I'm thinking of getting a new neck for it. Anyone know where I can get one that is cut off on an angle at the heal, like the middle pic above kind of shows? To the OP (or anyone who might know) by looking at yours, do you think the headstock is all one piece or could it have a piece of veneer on it, like this one - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-Piece...234109?hash=item3b48e7fefd:g:G94AAOSwz5pdobKc
