WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

[GuitarStv]

I came up with this wiring diagram for my Epi Dot. It has a 4 conductor '59 neck and a Seth Lover bridge. I want to split the neck to the screw side with a push/pull pot on the volume, and am putting a treble bleed on both volumes.. Can someone check over my wiring to make sure I haven't screwed anything up? I used blue for ground wires just to keep from confusing myself.

Thanks!

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

I came up with this wiring diagram for my Epi Dot. It has a 4 conductor '59 neck and a Seth Lover bridge. I want to split the neck to the screw side with a push/pull pot on the volume, and am putting a treble bleed on both volumes.. Can someone check over my wiring to make sure I haven't screwed anything up? I used blue for ground wires just to keep from confusing myself.

Thanks!

Wiring the neck pickup like you did will achieve the splitcoil effect you want, but...

Someone please correct me if i am wrong, but i believe by reverse wiring the neck pickup like has been done here, will lead to the neck and bridge pickups being out of phase when the two pickups are combined in middle position of the 3 way pickup selector switch.

If that is correct, then i would rewire the neck pickup to avoid this by:
1. Keep Black as Hot and Green as ground
2. Route White and Red to the middle lug of the switch
3. Wire the "up" position of the switch to the Input of the Neck Volume pot instead of to ground. This will short out the slug coil like you want. I believe this method is called "shunting".

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

Thanks! I figured that the coil would be isolated, but was wondering if it would screw something up on the humbucker side. Much better to figure this out BEFORE I've pulled everything out of the guitar.

 

[jeremy]

Re: WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

flipping green and black will flip the phase of the neck pup so will be out of phase when mixed with the bridge. i think shunting the stud coil to the volume would work but it might introduce noise, ive never tried it

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

Regarding the proper name for the method: l researched further, and
per this writeup at the Deaf Eddie website:

http://www.deaf-eddie.net/drawings/drawings.html

... when you are working with the two Finish wires joined together already (like above), that is a "coil shunt", regardless of wherher you route it to Ground or Positive.

Alternatively, if you working with those Finish wires where they are uncoupled by default and you use a switch to route them, then that supposedly is what "Coil split" is supposed to mean.

Interesting. So since the method of working with both Finish wires already coupled seems to be more prevalent than working with the wires separated, most of us are saying "coil split" when we should be saying "coil shunt". Haha.

Not too suprising given the mess in usage between "coil tap" and "coil split".

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

My understanding is that a coil split is a coil tap. It's just one that occurs at exactly the point where a pickup switches from one coil to the next. If your hookup wires came from 1/2 way into one coil, then it would be a humbucker tap, but not a split.

 

[Mincer]

Re: WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

My understanding is that a coil split is a coil tap. It's just one that occurs at exactly the point where a pickup switches from one coil to the next. If your hookup wires came from 1/2 way into one coil, then it would be a humbucker tap, but not a split.

The problem is that it only works if you call a humbucker 'one coil'. It is 2, so splitting can't isn't tapping, as you aren't putting a wire in the middle of 1 coil, but at the end of one and the beginning of another.

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

The problem is that it only works if you call a humbucker 'one coil'. It is 2, so splitting can't isn't tapping, as you aren't putting a wire in the middle of 1 coil, but at the end of one and the beginning of another.

It'll sound exactly the same as coil tapping a humbucker 99% on one side, and 1% on the other . . . and that's a legit humbucker tap. I see why there's so much confusion about the terms though.

 

[Mincer]

Re: WIring Diagram for 335 with split neck

It'll sound exactly the same as coil tapping a humbucker 99% on one side, and 1% on the other . . . and that's a legit humbucker tap. I see why there's so much confusion about the terms though.

The sound isn't important to me here as much as what is happening electrically. That is why it is important to use the right terms.