Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
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ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
hi
the diagram I posted in the other link was for 2 pickups as Orpheo said
the pots and tone should be the same
your guitar has a single master volume and master tone, correct?
try this
I drew the single as having black and green wires
not sure what you have
but one is ground and one to a pole
each pickup hot to a pole
and ground to one pole
the red/white ( they are duncan's right? ) pairs from humbuckers to the
ground terminals 2 and 4
the dark red volume does all your jumps as noted
should work
let me know
hi
the diagram I posted in the other link was for 2 pickups as Orpheo said
the pots and tone should be the same
your guitar has a single master volume and master tone, correct?
try this
I drew the single as having black and green wires
not sure what you have
but one is ground and one to a pole
each pickup hot to a pole
and ground to one pole
the red/white ( they are duncan's right? ) pairs from humbuckers to the
ground terminals 2 and 4
the dark red volume does all your jumps as noted
should work
let me know
Marco78
New member
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
Hi, thanks for your help...
so... pickups aren't Duncan but color code is the same. I have one tone and one volume.
Your link on superswitch are very different in comparison to orpheo one's. If I'd link tone and volume like your draw but superswitch like orpheo draw, do you think that it should work?
Thanks a lot my friend
hi
the diagram I posted in the other link was for 2 pickups as Orpheo said
the pots and tone should be the same
your guitar has a single master volume and master tone, correct?
try this
I drew the single as having black and green wires
not sure what you have
but one is ground and one to a pole
each pickup hot to a pole
and ground to one pole
the red/white ( they are duncan's right? ) pairs from humbuckers to the
ground terminals 2 and 4
the dark red volume does all your jumps as noted
should work
let me know
Hi, thanks for your help...
so... pickups aren't Duncan but color code is the same. I have one tone and one volume.
Your link on superswitch are very different in comparison to orpheo one's. If I'd link tone and volume like your draw but superswitch like orpheo draw, do you think that it should work?
Thanks a lot my friend
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
I dont think you can do "a little of each"
its one way or another
Orpheo did it somewhat different than I
He brought in the middle totally different and each of the splits had their own pole
but the wiring up to the volume/tone should be the same
do you have a photo of what you have now
it may just need a small tweak instead of a rewire
I dont think you can do "a little of each"
its one way or another
Orpheo did it somewhat different than I
He brought in the middle totally different and each of the splits had their own pole
but the wiring up to the volume/tone should be the same
do you have a photo of what you have now
it may just need a small tweak instead of a rewire
Marco78
New member
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
I have rewind the entire circuit like your photos, now the guitar work but there is two problem
1. Tone and volume don't work. On 10 or 0 the sound is the same.
2. The guitar is very noisy...
PS: with your wiring in position 2 and 4 is the middle connected with "outside" bobbins of neck and bridge (the bobbins "outer")?
I have rewind the entire circuit like your photos, now the guitar work but there is two problem
1. Tone and volume don't work. On 10 or 0 the sound is the same.
2. The guitar is very noisy...
PS: with your wiring in position 2 and 4 is the middle connected with "outside" bobbins of neck and bridge (the bobbins "outer")?
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
if the wiring is exactly like Duncan's, yes
the outside coils should be active
what exactly are the pickups you have?
what exactly have you done when you rewired it?
again
could you post a picture of what you have
it is hard to do this blind
do you have a multimeter?
if so do a quick test for me
plug a cable into your guitar
unplug the other end from your amp
set the meter to ohms
touch one lead to the tip of the guitar cable
the other to the bridge of the guitar
what does it read?
set the pickup selector to the neck position
tip to sleeve
what does it read?
it may be noisy because the tip (hot) and sleeve (ground) are backwards
if the volume and tone don’t work then something isn’t wired correctly
a picture of your wiring may tell me what is wrong
if the wiring is exactly like Duncan's, yes
the outside coils should be active
what exactly are the pickups you have?
what exactly have you done when you rewired it?
again
could you post a picture of what you have
it is hard to do this blind
do you have a multimeter?
if so do a quick test for me
plug a cable into your guitar
unplug the other end from your amp
set the meter to ohms
touch one lead to the tip of the guitar cable
the other to the bridge of the guitar
what does it read?
set the pickup selector to the neck position
tip to sleeve
what does it read?
it may be noisy because the tip (hot) and sleeve (ground) are backwards
if the volume and tone don’t work then something isn’t wired correctly
a picture of your wiring may tell me what is wrong
Marco78
New member
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
Hi, I have rewind the circuit with your drawn... with Duncan drawn don't work. I have David Barfuss pickups.
So... set my meter on x100 (ohm) with tip and bridge I read 28, with tip and sleeve (with neck pickups) is 40.
I have done a photo, but I bet that you can't see anything, the circuit is very complicated!
Hi, I have rewind the circuit with your drawn... with Duncan drawn don't work. I have David Barfuss pickups.
So... set my meter on x100 (ohm) with tip and bridge I read 28, with tip and sleeve (with neck pickups) is 40.
I have done a photo, but I bet that you can't see anything, the circuit is very complicated!
Marco78
New member
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
Ok I resoldered the wire, but I seem that tone work conversely: at 0 is maximum and 10 is minimum... are you sure of the link on tone?
Sleeve to bridge is 2 (x1) so first is
tip-bridge 28 (x100) = 2800
tip sleeve 40 = 4000
sleeve bridge 2 (x1) = 2
Is it normal?
the noysi is very high!
Ok I resoldered the wire, but I seem that tone work conversely: at 0 is maximum and 10 is minimum... are you sure of the link on tone?
Sleeve to bridge is 2 (x1) so first is
tip-bridge 28 (x100) = 2800
tip sleeve 40 = 4000
sleeve bridge 2 (x1) = 2
Is it normal?
the noysi is very high!
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ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
sleeve and bridge should both be ground
tip to sleeve should be reading through the circuit (pickups, pots and all)
tip to bridge should read almost the same as tip to sleeve
to correct the tone
move cap to the other leg of the pot
set pickup selector to neck
volume all the way up
tip to sleeve should read in the neighborhood of the pickup resistance
same for the bridge
with the split coils and single there is other math involved
roughly add the resistance of the two coils together and divide by 4
with it plugged into your amp
set to position 2 and 4
touch a metal object to the middle pickups pole pieces
then to the outside coil of either bridge or neck
you should hear the tap come through the amp
sleeve and bridge should both be ground
tip to sleeve should be reading through the circuit (pickups, pots and all)
tip to bridge should read almost the same as tip to sleeve
to correct the tone
move cap to the other leg of the pot
set pickup selector to neck
volume all the way up
tip to sleeve should read in the neighborhood of the pickup resistance
same for the bridge
with the split coils and single there is other math involved
roughly add the resistance of the two coils together and divide by 4
with it plugged into your amp
set to position 2 and 4
touch a metal object to the middle pickups pole pieces
then to the outside coil of either bridge or neck
you should hear the tap come through the amp
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
i was looking at your photo
there are three wires to the back of the tone pot
two are white one is black
the white ones appear to be the ground connections back to the pot
the skinny black one looks to be the one to the bridge
the bare one ground the switch
is this correct?
i was looking at your photo
there are three wires to the back of the tone pot
two are white one is black
the white ones appear to be the ground connections back to the pot
the skinny black one looks to be the one to the bridge
the bare one ground the switch
is this correct?
Marco78
New member
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
The wire that coming from the trem is connected on tone and so the tone is connected with volume. So the volume is on ground...
Is it correct but the bare white go to the jack, not the switch.
The link to the switch is silver wire...
The wire that coming from the trem is connected on tone and so the tone is connected with volume. So the volume is on ground...
Is it correct but the bare white go to the jack, not the switch.
The link to the switch is silver wire...
Marco78
New member
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
Yes, I have a treble bleed like suhr guitar.
What means "that across the outside legs of pots"?
Is it possible that resistor cause the noise?
Yes, I have a treble bleed like suhr guitar.
What means "that across the outside legs of pots"?
Is it possible that resistor cause the noise?
ehdwuld
A Ficus
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan
sometimes one can make a 500k pot look like a 250k pot by putting a 250k resistor between the one outside leg where the jack comes in and the grounded leg
sometimes one can make a 500k pot look like a 250k pot by putting a 250k resistor between the one outside leg where the jack comes in and the grounded leg
