Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

ya know
you started this thread 6 months ago

it may be at the point of professional help

are there any guitar techs near where you are?
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

sometimes one can make a 500k pot look like a 250k pot by putting a 250k resistor between the one outside leg where the jack comes in and the grounded leg

Ok!

ya know
you started this thread 6 months ago

it may be at the point of professional help

are there any guitar techs near where you are?

Hi, the guitar is arrived to me few days ago... :)

I have two my friend that are "professional", but I have wait for 4-5 days, but it isn't available to help me. In the next days I'll see someone!

Thanks a lot for your help! :)
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

so this isnt the guitar in the original post?

did the other one work ok?

with Orpheo's wiring?
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

Yes, is the same but when I open this 3d I have ordered the guitar from few days... Is arrived to me 1 week ago! ;)
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

oh I'm sorry
I thought you had spent months fiddling with it

say right now it works with no noise
with volume wide open and the tone on 0?

test the switching lets make sure that works
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

oh I'm sorry
I thought you had spent months fiddling with it

say right now it works with no noise
with volume wide open and the tone on 0?

test the switching lets make sure that works

Yes now it work with no noise with 10 on volume and 0 on tone...

HOw can I test the switching? sorry but english isn't my language.. :banghead:
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

with it plugged into your amp


set to position 2 and 4

touch a metal object to the middle pickups pole pieces
then to the outside coil of either bridge or neck

you should hear the tap come through the amp
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

with it plugged into your amp


set to position 2 and 4

touch a metal object to the middle pickups pole pieces
then to the outside coil of either bridge or neck

you should hear the tap come through the amp

Undestand... but I think that work the "inner" coil and not the outside coil...
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

the tap says its inner coils not outer coils?

then as Orpheo said

swap the black and green wires on each humbucker

yours must start on the other side
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

It is so easy. Pickup selection, volume and tone are independant of eachother.

I cant make it more clear than the way it is. Just follow the damn schemaric. It works.
 
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Thanks Ed.

Orpheo now the circuit work but the guitar is noiseless only with 10 on volume and 0 on tone... I don't know why...
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

on your volume pot
you have one outside leg wired to the jack
the middle leg wired to the switch
the other outside leg soldered to ground

on your tone control
you have one wire connecting the middle leg to the volume pots middle leg
and one leg with the cap soldered to it
the other leg of the cap soldered to the back of the pot
there is one leg on the tone that has nothing attached to it at all

and between the pots there is a wire connecting the backs of each pot

there is also a ground wire from the volume pot to the jack
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

on your volume pot
you have one outside leg wired to the jack
the middle leg wired to the switch
the other outside leg soldered to ground

on your tone control
you have one wire connecting the middle leg to the volume pots middle leg
and one leg with the cap soldered to it
the other leg of the cap soldered to the back of the pot
there is one leg on the tone that has nothing attached to it at all

and between the pots there is a wire connecting the backs of each pot

there is also a ground wire from the volume pot to the jack

Yes, it is right.

I think that I have invert the wire hot/ground for humbucker or single coil, because on 2-4 position I hear a "out of phase" sound.
Is it possible that this problem caused noise problems?

I have sent a mail to pickups builders and wait for its answer.
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

out of phase wouldnt create noise

miswiring would

if you disconnect your pickups

separate the 4 wires

then, with the meter, test for continuity between
1st the black and white
should be the first coil if wired like duncans
then the red and green
should be the second coil if wired like duncans

if this doesnt match then check each wire one to another
to find out which wires are the coils

then we will go from there
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

out of phase wouldnt create noise

miswiring would

if you disconnect your pickups

separate the 4 wires

then, with the meter, test for continuity between
1st the black and white
should be the first coil if wired like duncans
then the red and green
should be the second coil if wired like duncans

if this doesnt match then check each wire one to another
to find out which wires are the coils

then we will go from there

Ok thanks my friend. For now I wait the answer of a builder, I have already redone the circuit 3 times in 2 days...

For the single how can I know the input and the output?
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

the output or ground is sometime grounded to the pole pieces

or baseplate

on the humbuckers there is usually a shield wire that is grounded to the baseplate

on duncans the color code like this

with the "start" like on a spool of thread
the first section of wire at the center with all the other wire wound round
and finish being the end of that winding

color_codes.jpg
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

the output or ground is sometime grounded to the pole pieces

or baseplate

on the humbuckers there is usually a shield wire that is grounded to the baseplate

on duncans the color code like this

with the "start" like on a spool of thread
the first section of wire at the center with all the other wire wound round
and finish being the end of that winding

Belonging the noise problem, on position 2 and 4 (when is activated the middle pickups) the sound is like a single coil with less output and a "quack-sound". Is it difficult to explain that with word.
So I think that there is a out of phase problem, otherwise I can explain this sound... :banghead:
 
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Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

are all of your pickups from barfuss?
are they still attached black to hot and green to ground
or have you reversed that?

if you have reversed it and have green to hot and black to ground

this could be the reason for the out of phase

was it getting this out of phase, noise, quack before you swapped the wiring around?

if not

reversing the leads on the humbuckers caused the out of phase

there is another way of getting the adjustable coils
that involves changing the wiring around

it is detailed here

ignore the push pull switch shown
and rewire with the red and white as hot and ground and the black/green combo as
the split
coil_splitting.jpg
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

are all of your pickups from barfuss?
are they still attached black to hot and green to ground
or have you reversed that?

if you have reversed it and have green to hot and black to ground

this could be the reason for the out of phase

was it getting this out of phase, noise, quack before you swapped the wiring around?

if not

reversing the leads on the humbuckers caused the out of phase

there is another way of getting the adjustable coils
that involves changing the wiring around

it is detailed here

ignore the push pull switch shown
and rewire with the red and white as hot and ground and the black/green combo as
the split
coil_splitting.jpg

Yes, all the pickups are from barfuss. I have send an mail to Barfuss but I don't have still any answer.

But I remember that when pickups arrive to me there was a black wire togheter silver ground wire, so probably Barfuss have used black like ground and green like hot.

So if I have green (hot) black (ground), can I use the second scheme to split the outer bobbin?

Green/black switch
white/bare on pots
red on output

I don't remember if out of phase there was first that I redone the wiring... probably not.

How can I test what wire is ground and what is hot?

thanks a lot my friend, you help is very appreciate!! :)
 
Re: Wiring similar to Guthrie Govan

I have redone the circuit, now the out of phase problem is solved but the guitar is always noisy, but only in my PC with amplitube 3, while with bass amp of my friend is noiseless... I wait for my plexi replica, probably the problem there is only with at3.
 
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