Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

  • The physical power of a real amp is the whole point. I don't care how it records

    Votes: 13 22.8%
  • I don't spend gear money on arrangements of 1s and 0s

    Votes: 11 19.3%
  • If I buy modeling, hardware only (e.g. AxeFx)

    Votes: 10 17.5%
  • If I buy modeling, software only, don't need to spend money on soon-obsolete DSPs

    Votes: 10 17.5%
  • I don't believe any modelers record as well as an amp (yet?), so the point is moot

    Votes: 9 15.8%
  • I do music (semi-)professionally and use whatever supports the business best

    Votes: 13 22.8%
  • I don't even have an amp made after 1983

    Votes: 9 15.8%
  • I actively dislike having too many knobs to fiddle with. Some amps just sound right

    Votes: 18 31.6%
  • I don't trust digital gear reliability

    Votes: 7 12.3%
  • I think modeling is the way to go looking forward

    Votes: 21 36.8%

  • Total voters
    57
Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

I run my modeler through a tube amp. Problem solved. :bigok:
 
Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

Tech21's no-nonsense analog amp emulation is very nicely done.

I dig em! I like em more than the amplitube modeler I have. I have the vtbass and oxford tech 21 analog amp emulation pedals and use em for all guitar and base on this track:

 
Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

Red F$$kin Fang. Nice.
I'm pretty sure they're sick of their stuff breaking so they went SS when they actually had to start slogging their gear around the country/world. I know one of the guitarists gets most of his tone from a Megalith Delta pedal.
I need to get way more into that band. I look like I should be in it.

rock!!!! :headbang:

cool man. I looked on stage and the older guitarist had only 2 pedals; I did not really see any other pedals on stage!

they are all about the music; their live show sounds similar to their recordings and they ain't much for small chat or theatrics!!
 
Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

I view modeling amps the same way as I view Autotune for vocalists or fake boobs for women.

No thank you. :crazy: The real thing is available.
 
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I view modeling amps the same way as I view Autotune for vocalists or fake boobs for women.

No thank you. :crazy: The real thing is available.

An adult dancer chats you up and gives you her bedroom eyes... Due to silicon mountains you decline a roll the hay? Very noble standards indeed.
 
Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

cool man! I really dig Necropolo's music, I am sure that he has made the right choice. cool video.

Nice to hear man. I just meant that it's my way to go too but that's not my video, if you mean that :) It was created by Max Morton.


Anyway, these were me using M1 and P1:


(M1 P1 DI)


(P1 DI)


(M1 P1 MIC)


(no guitars but synths into M1 into power amp into cab - what the hell :) )


(P1 DI)


(acoustic piezo out M1 DI)

Besides those there are 2 full albums halfway recorded with these, one with DI the other with MIC. Plus I've been using these for all the gigs since my 2011 spine case. They work for me pretty fine. Spine, too.

May God bless you all with all of your tones that make your pants flap and face smiling :)
 
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Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

I must say NecroPolo your stuff is great! following on soundcloud. I dig the stuff you did with "andreaswallstrom" soundcloud.

I would like to hear clips from dudes not using modelers ;)
 
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Thanks man in the name of Andreas, too. That dude is a crazy one for drums, also a hell of an arranger :)

I would like to hear clips from dudes not using modelers ;)


M'kay, I did not have the AMT stuff in 2011 when this song was reamped with a real 6505, EL34mod... ;)

 
Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

Modelers. I hate them but use them. How does that even work, you might ask.
I love the nuance, feel and coloration of cork-sniffer quality all-analog stuff likely to weigh a ton, cost a fortune and peel paint off walls. But I'm also poor and lazy, so I'll often run an amp through a dummy load and slap an impulse response convolver on top. I feel a bit guilty but not any more than if I had the cops bust my ass for disturbing the neighbors in the middle of the night.
 
Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

My attitude is best summed up this way:

I bought a '72 Fender Twin Reverb off of a guy very early in my guitar playing "career". Even with one busted speaker cone and badly needing some work, it sounded great. Then I tried a Line 6 modeling amp. The clean simulations sounded worse to me than my own amp, so I stuck with my own amp. So really my ears have been spoiled for a long time, and it's going to take a modeling amp / modeling software a long time to get to where it's equivalent to my ears, and even if it did, I have that amp already, so why would I use modelers? I know some pros use them, so I don't hate on those who use modeling, but it's just not for me.
 
Re: Your attitude toward modeler gear and modeler software

I record miked amps, and I like recording with Amplitube 3 too. And the Amplitube 3 tracks sound great, especially certain of their amps. I particularly like many of their Orange amp simulations (all of which are too pricey for me to think about getting the real deal), the Soldano SLO simulation, the Marshall JTM simulation and the Hiwatt simulation. Also, all of which I don't have the funds to go buy the real deal, let alone the Royer ribbon mic that I like to use a simulation of in Amplitube.

I have acquired a nice little collection of tube amps, and they cover blues, hard rock, various cleans from shimmery and bright to thick and warm, crunchy 80's metal, buzzy scooped modern high gain, and even semi-clean/semi-crunch classic rock. I like recording them as well.

Sometimes I go to Amplitube just because I want to get a part recorded quickly and easily, and don't want to spend what little time I have to record on reconnecting a bunch of cables.

One time I mentioned to a friend that I often use a hardware pedal ahead of Amplitube. This kind of freaked him out. He'd never thought of it before. But why not? Yes, Amplitube has simulations of various pedals, but if I have a favorite pedal and I have a certain tone in mind and I know that pedal will get me there, I sometimes put the pedal between my guitar and the recording interface, and just add the amp in the computer.

I don't use actual guitar amps that process the guitar with modeling. I have a Yamaha DG1000 preamp that I used to use years ago, but it hasn't been used in probably 5 years now. I've plugged in to Line 6 and other modeling combo amps, and while they might sound great alone, if you do a shootout with them and a tube amp, or even an Sansamp Trademark 60, the tube or solid state amp has always to me sounded more present and in my face. Part of this may be the excessive reverb and other effects on most modeling amp presets. I did hear a local band with a guitarist who played through a Spider Valve, the one with a Bogner tube preamp in it, and he was getting some great tones. Great meat and potatoes chunky sustaining overdrive tones, nothing over the top with gain, or with excessive effects. His guitar sat in the mix very well and had a nice meaty overdrive tone.
 
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