Zoom Pedals and the Boston Sound

[ehdwuld]

ok Every year around this time, I start getting antsy about getting my Boston groove on

and I start looking at the Rockman Ace pedals

I had one of the X100 things back in the 90s , my nephew borrowed it , dang it

I saw on you tube where some guy had reverse engineered the thing into a floor pedal
with buttons but he only has a facebook page and there isnt another way to contact him

I was thinking, one of the guitar modeling effects pedals probably have that setting or something very similar

does any one have a Zoom or similar pedal with that boston preset?

I saw where Amplitude includes the thing in their Satriani package

I saw the GOAT pedals but they are more the rack mount individual components

I guess if I had a drive/fuzz , a chorus and reverb/delay/echo in a multi unit, I could get it,
any suggestions?

maybe one of the little Lekato or Sonic Cake pedals?

 

[Securb]

You don't have to go crazy buying special equipment. The key to the Boston sound is Tom's EQ once you have that you are close enough for horse shoes. Add a bit of chorus and some type of Marshall patch or a MIB and you are off to the races. For some reason throwing my LP out of phase helps get me there. I have a path on the H90 called Shultzism that has the EQ curve below and a cocked wah setting that sounds amazingly close. I have no place to put it in our set but it is fun and nostalgic to noodle with.

 

[ehdwuld]

so it would be EQ > Distortion > Chorus > Amp > Echo/Delay/Reverb ?

 

[jeremy]

eq could be pre or post distortion box, post usually gives you better control, but pre can get you some great tones too. i use my eq pre dirt box, but im not going for radical tonal changes. usually just a contoured boost

 

[Securb]

What Jeremy said. Mine just happens to be post. But yes the signal path you described should get you most of the way there.

 

[ehdwuld]

thanks guys

 

[beaubrummels]

In my Zoom MS-50G, I put a hi-gain Marshall sound, with bass and treble rolled off the right amount (removing unwanted frequencies is better than pumping up a few frequencies) >> stereo delay with 80ms one side, 160ms on the other side >> chorus (not much depth, slower rate)

 

[ehdwuld]

In my Zoom MS-50G, I put a hi-gain Marshall sound, with bass and treble rolled off the right amount (removing unwanted frequencies is better than pumping up a few frequencies) >> stereo delay with 80ms one side, 160ms on the other side >> chorus (not much depth, slower rate)

ohhh let me try that

 

[Aceman]

Fully agree with what has been said.

Boston is just a highly saturated Marshall + that EQ, and then wide chorus + echo to taste. Nothing amazeballs about it except that you need a house able to withstand a category 5 storm to get that sound out of a stack.

But damn, I remember the first time I plugged into one and played "Rock You Like A Hurricane." I was all "Damn, there's that sound!!!"

I have no doubt I can recreate that on my RP200A

 

[jeremy]

more than a feeling and rock you like a hurricane = same tone?

 

[ehdwuld]

Fully agree with what has been said.

Boston is just a highly saturated Marshall + that EQ, and then wide chorus + echo to taste. Nothing amazeballs about it except that you need a house able to withstand a category 5 storm to get that sound out of a stack.

But damn, I remember the first time I plugged into one and played "Rock You Like A Hurricane." I was all "Damn, there's that sound!!!"

I have no doubt I can recreate that on my RP200A

I have the Digitech GNX 3000 which is what became the RP series. I should be able to set up a preset for that. Or it may have one , I will have to check. I think it does....

I have several modelers I think I can set up something with. Thanks guys

But like everything else
It don't sound the same when i play it

that's most likely me

 

[Securb]

 

[beaubrummels]

more than a feeling and rock you like a hurricane = same tone?

Well, if you're Steve Dallas, maybe.

 

[jeremy]

i think the spandex constricts blood flow to the brain

 

[beaubrummels]

ohhh let me try that

So I tried 3 different ways. I don't know if these translate to what you are using, but here's the settings I did it with in an MS-50G

ROCKMAN V1
Amp Model: MS Drive
Gain: 82
Tube: 30
Level: 103
Treble: 45
Mid: 50
Bass: 56
Presence: 53

Chorus
Depth: 12
Rate: 30
Mix: 50
Tone: 10
Level: 100

Dual Digital Delay (stereo left/right delay)
TimeA: 80
TimeB: 160
FeedbackA: 0
FeedbackB: 0
Depth: M-0
Speed: 25
Filter: 0
Delay Mix: 100
Mix: 15

Hall Reverb
Decay: 12
Tone: 4
Mix: 50
Pre Delay: 1
Level: 100
Tail: Off



ROCKMAN V2
Amp Model: MS 1959
Gain: 58
Tube: 30
Level: 100
Treble: 50
Mid: 50
Bass: 50
Presence: 50

Chorus
Depth: 12
Rate: 30
Mix: 50
Tone: 10
Level: 100

Dual Digital Delay
TimeA: 80
TimeB: 160
FeedbackA: 0
FeedbackB: 0
Depth: M-0
Speed: 25
Filter: 0
Delay Mix: 100
Mix: 15

Hall Reverb
Decay: 12
Tone: 4
Mix: 50
Pre Delay: 1
Level: 100
Tail: Off



ROCKMAN V3 - I think this was modeled off the rack version? or one of the others, like the Soloist?, hence the 75/125 delay, etc.
Amp Model: BG CRUNCH
Gain: 55
Tube: 30
Level: 95
Treble: 60
Mid: 55
Bass: 45
Presence: 60

Chorus
Depth: 12
Rate: 25
Mix: 50
Tone: 10
Level: 80

Dual Digital Delay
TimeA: 75
TimeB: 125
FeedbackA: 12
FeedbackB: 12
Depth: M-0
Speed: 25
Filter: 0
Delay Mix: 90
Mix: 12

Hall Reverb
Decay: 14
Tone: 6
Mix: 40
Pre Delay: 20
Level: 100
Tail: On​​​

 

[ehdwuld]

thanks '
I will try that this evening