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You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright
Whilst you can only wonder why
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Originally posted by Chistopher View PostHaving a guitar doesn't mean you have to gig with it. Ideal practice and performance require different tools is what I'm saying.
i do get that the bridge changes things, maybe even in a cool way for some people, but i dont use the trem and would much rather have solid tuning and better sustain
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Originally posted by jeremy View Post
i understand, and for many people that may be true. i dont really practice much, everything i own needs to be gig worthy or i shouldnt own it.
i do get that the bridge changes things, maybe even in a cool way for some people, but i dont use the trem and would much rather have solid tuning and better sustainAdministrator of the SDUGF
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Jazzmaster builds are love/hate. Play a few before committing to that body style, if you can. I test drove a Fender JM for about 3 weeks and quickly decided it wasn't for me. The body was simply massive and the entire instrument was only a few inches shorter than my Precision Bass. That may be great for you, though.
So I'd pick hardtail Strat or Tele. Simpler, less to mess up. Highly suggest test driving a Jazzmaster if you want to go that route. It's a different animal than Fender's other offsets.Originally posted by crusty philtrumAnyone who *sings* at me through their teeth deserves to have a bus drive through their face
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What's a solid example of a famous song where you can hear the tone of a Jazzmaster guitar clearly? A song that is on Youtube so i can take a listen to it. I ask cuz I am not sure what the "classic Jazzmaster tone" sounds like.Sanford: "The hardest part about tone chasing is losing the expectations associated with the hardware."
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Originally posted by Jack_TriPpEr View PostWhat's a solid example of a famous song where you can hear the tone of a Jazzmaster guitar clearly? A song that is on Youtube so i can take a listen to it. I ask cuz I am not sure what the "classic Jazzmaster tone" sounds like.
Pretty clear JM tones on the solo at about 2:50 -
Last edited by GuitarStv; 08-11-2021, 12:42 PM.Join me in the fight against muscular atrophy!
Originally posted by Douglas AdamsThis planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.
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Originally posted by Jack_TriPpEr View PostWhat's a solid example of a famous song where you can hear the tone of a Jazzmaster guitar clearly? A song that is on Youtube so i can take a listen to it. I ask cuz I am not sure what the "classic Jazzmaster tone" sounds like.You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright
Whilst you can only wonder why
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Originally posted by alex1fly View PostJazzmaster builds are love/hate. Play a few before committing to that body style, if you can. I test drove a Fender JM for about 3 weeks and quickly decided it wasn't for me. The body was simply massive and the entire instrument was only a few inches shorter than my Precision Bass. That may be great for you, though.
So I'd pick hardtail Strat or Tele. Simpler, less to mess up. Highly suggest test driving a Jazzmaster if you want to go that route. It's a different animal than Fender's other offsets.
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Originally posted by Jack_TriPpEr View PostWhat's a solid example of a famous song where you can hear the tone of a Jazzmaster guitar clearly? A song that is on Youtube so i can take a listen to it. I ask cuz I am not sure what the "classic Jazzmaster tone" sounds like.
The tremolo when set up right is really fun. Very shimmery. The tremolo lock button is handy, too.
My favorite part of the JM test drive was setting it up with .11s (as intended) and playing fingerstyle. The classic bridge puts the strings far off the body, and it was pretty novel and encouraged me to play differently. I would've kept it just to have something way different if I weren't so fixated on both acquiring the perfect Telecaster and keeping my guitar collection down. I'm 150 lbs and the thing was totally massive, not more massive than a large bodied acoustic guitar but then I don't like playing those much. It was cool, for sure, and one may work its way back into my life at some point. I guess in that way, it could make a great candidate for a parts build. There's just more to do setup-wise with JMs... neck shims are commonplace, the original bridges are plagued with problems (just visit offsetguitars.com for a plethora of bridge-related threads). If I were doing a JM build I'd strongly consider doing a fixed bridge. Many of the modern Fender JMs coming out have fixed bridges.Originally posted by crusty philtrumAnyone who *sings* at me through their teeth deserves to have a bus drive through their face
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Originally posted by jeremy View Postim 6'2" and 240lbs so a little bigger of a guitar isnt much of an issue for me but i can see how it might not be as comfortable for others
I'm also over 6' and grew up playing a 335 . . . so pretty much everything seems small in comparison. Jazzmaster body size is perfect.Join me in the fight against muscular atrophy!
Originally posted by Douglas AdamsThis planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.
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Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post
Clean they tend to sound pretty pokey - think Television's Marquee Moon or Costello's Watching the Detectives. They tend to take gain and effects pretty well though. Thom Yorke used one for the recording of Airbag on OK computer. Dinosaur Jr, My Bloody Valentine, do heavier stuff with them.
Pretty clear JM tones on the solo at about 2:50 -
Last edited by Jack_TriPpEr; 08-12-2021, 07:54 AM.Sanford: "The hardest part about tone chasing is losing the expectations associated with the hardware."
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Originally posted by Jack_TriPpEr View Post
Big thanks Steve. That Wilco song was something else. Getting to hear how a Jazzmaster, Tele and Strat each sounded against the other. The impressions i got for the Jazmmaster was that it didn't have the glassyness of a Strat and was more PAF ish /P90 ish. It was a really useful tone.
Yeah, the interesting (frustrating?) thing about JM traditional wiring and pickups is that it's capable of some radical tone shaping. They are kinda chameleons in that they go from super crazy bright and plinky to dull/woofy with a pillow over the speaker sounds and everything in between. It can be a little off-putting if you're used to traditional guitar wiring and not much playing with the knobs. If you always find yourself playing with the controls on your guitar you may find the JM traditional wiring to be perfect though.Join me in the fight against muscular atrophy!
Originally posted by Douglas AdamsThis planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.
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Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post
No worries!
Yeah, the interesting (frustrating?) thing about JM traditional wiring and pickups is that it's capable of some radical tone shaping. They are kinda chameleons in that they go from super crazy bright and plinky to dull/woofy with a pillow over the speaker sounds and everything in between. It can be a little off-putting if you're used to traditional guitar wiring and not much playing with the knobs. If you always find yourself playing with the controls on your guitar you may find the JM traditional wiring to be perfect though.Last edited by Jack_TriPpEr; 08-12-2021, 09:37 AM.Sanford: "The hardest part about tone chasing is losing the expectations associated with the hardware."
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