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  • #16
    Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

    Fuzz is so gear dependent I'm not surprised by the range of opinions on them. I never quite liked them, but I did like how they add a grit to a clean base (it just always seemed to be a fine line between harsh and muddy tone stack wise). It did end up driving me to pick up a Fairfield Barbershop and I found that added the grit while keeping things clear, but it wasn't designed for heavier rock genres like so many other Fuzzes are so I'm cognizant that can be a big tradeoff.
    Originally posted by kevlar3000
    I learned a long time ago that the only thing that mattered regarding tone was what my ears thought.
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    • #17
      Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

      Of the very few fuzz pedals I've tried the Pharaoh is by far my favorite, but even with it I NEVER run it alone. It really becomes a tone more useful to me when combined with an OD. There is a flavor difference between running the OD before or after. I like both and one of each is better.

      With KOT distortion into the Pharaoh and then into and LCD set for more of a clean boost I get searing, cutting fuzz lead tones with amazing sustain and harmonics at bedroom volume levels.
      I am so close to retirement that I could play in a band full time. All I have to do is figure out what to use instead of money, improve my playing, learn some songs, and find some other musicians more talented than me who will do exactly as they're told. .

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      • #18
        Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

        Originally posted by Lazarus1140 View Post
        Of the very few fuzz pedals I've tried the Pharaoh is by far my favorite, but even with it I NEVER run it alone. It really becomes a tone more useful to me when combined with an OD. There is a flavor difference between running the OD before or after. I like both and one of each is better.

        With KOT distortion into the Pharaoh and then into and LCD set for more of a clean boost I get searing, cutting fuzz lead tones with amazing sustain and harmonics at bedroom volume levels.
        I have been reading around the net and this seems to be the case with a lot of fuzz players. They seem to be using them in conjunction with some kind of boost of overdrive. I'm pretty happy now with this Selah (even though I still need to figure out why it wasn't working properly until it dropped) because it is more like an Orange type fuzz. However, I have tried maxing out the presence and still have problems cutting through like many others have said. I played with it all last night and could not get the recorded tone to cut through right. I'm starting to think that fuzz is a difficult effect to use because it's so hard to dial in and use in a live situation.

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        • #19
          Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

          Originally posted by jon the art guy View Post
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          This post wins the day. Maybe even the week. And is in the running for the year.
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          • #20
            Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

            fuzzes are funny beasts, whether they be germ or silicon, fuzzface, muff, bender, bosstone or otherwise, they all have their strengths and their limitations. Some things they can totally slay at, and some things they totally suck at. This is why they come in pedal form with an on/off stomp switch.
            "Technique is really the elimination of the unneccessary ... it is a constant effort to avoid any personal impediment or obstacle to acheive the smooth flow of energy and intent"
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            • #21
              Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

              Fuzz pedals are a lot of fun but they're colors in a pallette and not every painting needs every color.

              My pictures are psychedelic kaleidoscopic walls of sound so I use every color I can get my hands on.
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              • #22
                Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                Fuzz is a tricky devil. You have to play with the controls, match it to the amp channel you're using with it, and then on top of that you have to play a certain way to get it to sound just right. Most fuzz pedals are pretty unforgiving.

                I like the fuzz on my Ultimate Octave but lately I've been feeling that it's too bright. Maybe I need to go shopping again.

                How Eric Johnson gets his Fuzz Face to sound the way it does, I'll never know. I think it's the entire rig and the fuzz is just a small part of the equation.

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                • #23
                  Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                  Fuzz is its own world of study

                  I can get lost in finding the right fuzz for the right amp for the right riff
                  Originally posted by Lewguitar
                  It is a blast to plug into a full Marshall stack, crank it up to patent applied for and wail though. Makes you feel like you have a penis so big you have to tuck it into your sock.
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                  I totally forgot how totally awesome it sounds to have a killer tube amp cranked. I'm not sure if I'm gonna watch some porn at the moment or just crank my amp again and bust one on it.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                    To like fuzz you need to have a stoner side to yourself. Nancy and Ron, not so much.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                      Originally posted by B2D View Post
                      Fuzz is a tricky devil. You have to play with the controls, match it to the amp channel you're using with it, and then on top of that you have to play a certain way to get it to sound just right. Most fuzz pedals are pretty unforgiving.

                      I like the fuzz on my Ultimate Octave but lately I've been feeling that it's too bright. Maybe I need to go shopping again.

                      How Eric Johnson gets his Fuzz Face to sound the way it does, I'll never know. I think it's the entire rig and the fuzz is just a small part of the equation.
                      A really nice FF variant is magical. They basically turn your guitar volume into a gain control, and they interact with your pick in a beautiful way. Problem is, they live or die by the pickups and the amp. Some amps don't tolerate them at all (including most Mesa's IME ... the only Mesa I've made sound good with a FF is the Mark V's channel 2 with very specific settings).

                      To complicate things even more, not all FF's are created equal. A particular model that sounds smooth and creamy on your amp might sound like a hornet's nest on mine. Even different units within the same line can sound subtly different, especially with germanium FF's.

                      They're a pain to deal with at the best of times, but when you get the right one, nothing can beat it.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                        ^ fortunately there are like 12 components on them and they're ridiculously easy to build . . . for under 60$ you can try out ten or twenty circuits and fine tune a fuzz face to exactly what you like.
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                        • #27
                          Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                          I prefer to pay someone who knows what they're doing instead of letting a hack like myself take a stab at it. Plus, I don't have the resources to measure and test a huge batch of Ge transistors.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                            i love a good fuzz, but it's a mood thing for me. i tried a bunch of fuzz faces before settling on a jetter indigo, which addresses a lot of the consistency issues that they tend to have.

                            i'm tempted by the earthquaker hoof reaper, too. that looks like an awesome pedal...

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                            • #29
                              Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                              Yeah I have actually met quite a few people who dislike fuzz pedals.. to each their own. I personally love a sputtery bassy fuzzy sound.

                              I can see how some folks can not like them though.. they aren't the easiest pedals to get amazing sounds out of.. they take a lot of tweaking on both the pedal and amp and trial and error with different kinds of fuzz.
                              Guitar- Fender Starcaster/Ibanez Artist in CGCGCC tuning
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                              • #30
                                Re: Yep, I Hate Fuzz Pedals

                                I'd like a fuzz if I paired it with a 7 or 10 band (or 31 band) eq.

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