1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

[AcreThrills]

I would like to wire a single bridge humbucker to a 5-way super switch similar to this diagram, but the super switch terminals are very confusing to me and I can't figure out how to change the positions around. I want to wire it in this order instead. Can someone help me?

1. Series in phase
2. Series out of phase
3. Parallel in phase
4. South coil
5. North coil

Thanks!

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

I would like to wire a single bridge humbucker to a 5-way super switch similar to this diagram, but the super switch terminals are very confusing to me and I can't figure out how to change the positions around. I want to wire it in this order instead. Can someone help me?

1. Series in phase
2. Series out of phase
3. Parallel in phase
4. South coil
5. North coil

Thanks!

ill see if i can help..

you want this
1. Series in phase
2. Series out of phase
3. Parallel in phase
4. South coil
5. North coil

instead of
the one in the diagram.. ?


if this is for a 1 pickup guitar.. the out of phase will offer no extra sound as it takes 2 pickups..

 

[AcreThrills]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

I think the original .PDF is accounting for the pickup being a two coiled humbucker.

Yes, exactly. I know it is possible, I just can't wrap my brain around how the super switch works in the GuitarElectronics.com diagram.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

I think the original .PDF is accounting for the pickup being a two coiled humbucker.

well it cant be a humbucker w/o being two coils..

if you put a humbucker out of phase.. it has to be used with another pickup that is IN phase..to get an out of phase sound..

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

Yes, exactly. I know it is possible, I just can't wrap my brain around how the super switch works in the GuitarElectronics.com diagram.

im working on it now.. no guarantees but ill try to draw something up

 

[Artie]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

well it cant be a humbucker w/o being two coils..

if you put a humbucker out of phase.. it has to be used with another pickup that is IN phase..to get an out of phase sound..

I think he means the two coils out-of-phase, which is do-able. I'm working on it too.

Like this:

First, attach the jumpers to the Superswitch, as in Fig 1. Then add the pickup and output wires as in fig 2.

The "bottom" end of the blue line should also have a "solder dot" on it also.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

I think he means the two coils out-of-phase, which is do-able. I'm working on it too.

Like this:

First, attach the jumpers to the Superswitch, as in Fig 1. Then add the pickup and output wires as in fig 2.

The "bottom" end of the blue line should also have a "solder dot" on it also.

my solution . Have to color it and look it over a bit but i think mine will do what he wants..

 

[AcreThrills]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

Thanks, guys! This is for an upcoming Warmoth build, so I won't be able to test it for a month or two. I will report back when I get it wired. Since there is so little information about a 5-way switch on a single humbucker elsewhere online, I imagine somebody in the future will be curious to know if out of phase wiring on a single humbucker produces a usable sound.

 

[Mincer]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

Wow, this is wild. Y'all need to teach a course on this stuff or something. I'd be interested to know how this sounds.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

Thanks, guys! This is for an upcoming Warmoth build, so I won't be able to test it for a month or two. I will report back when I get it wired. Since there is so little information about a 5-way switch on a single humbucker elsewhere online, I imagine somebody in the future will be curious to know if out of phase wiring on a single humbucker produces a usable sound.

And out-of-phase 'pup must be used in conjunction with an in-phase 'pup to get as usable sound.. my guess is , that an out-of-phase pickup by it self will sound normal but i could be wrong

ill paint my drawing today so its easier to read...Also need to look it over again to see if i can spot any errors

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

And out-of-phase 'pup must be used in conjunction with an in-phase 'pup to get as usable sound.. my guess is , that an out-of-phase pickup by it self will sound normal but i could be wrong

ill paint my drawing today so its easier to read...Also need to look it over again to see if i can spot any errors

He's looking to put the stud coil out of phase with the screw coil. I'm dubious how this will sound since they are so close to each other.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

updated pic with color.. Went over the original drawing in my head a few times..and found a few errors. This one should work as advertised and is easier to follow with the added SD color scheme.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

He's looking to put the stud coil out of phase with the screw coil. I'm dubious how this will sound since they are so close to each other.

yea.. i know.. we shall see if it gives him a usable sound

 

[Artie]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

I've got an axe here with a single bridge humbucker. I'm going to try this out just 'cause I'm curious too. I suspect it will sound . . . bad.

You know, there is a way to do this that might be more usable. Wire the two coils RP, but in parallel, rather than series. Now you could put a resistor, say 6.2k or so, in series with the RP coil for a controlled degree of cancellation. Better yet, make the resistor a trim-pot and dial in the degree of cancellation.

Just a thought. I might try that too.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

a few notes on my drawing..

Easiest way to look at a super switch is to view it as 4 seperate switches which is pretty evident when you look at this drawing. i used one section of the switch per 'pup wire, which IMO makes the drawing easier to follow.

-thin black lines=ground wires
-blue=signal/hot
-light blue=jumpers
-dark grey circles=solder points
Seymour Duncan color codes
-black=north start
-light grey=north finish
-red=south finish
-green=south start

 

[DCikes88]

Re: 1 Humbucker with 5-Way Super Switch

I've got an axe here with a single bridge humbucker. I'm going to try this out just 'cause I'm curious too. I suspect it will sound . . . bad.

You know, there is a way to do this that might be more usable. Wire the two coils RP, but in parallel, rather than series. Now you could put a resistor, say 6.2k or so, in series with the RP coil for a controlled degree of cancellation. Better yet, make the resistor a trim-pot and dial in the degree of cancellation.

Just a thought. I might try that too.

Artie, apologies for necroing this. Have you ever tried this in the end, how did it sound?

I'm searching the forum for interesting wiring schemes for a single hb bridge and came across this.

 

[Chistopher]

I personally would not use this wiring. Positions 3,4, and 5 are going to sound so similar as to be redundant and position 2 is going to sound so thin to be useless unless you have some serious coil mismatch in the pickup. This would only really have merit with a P-Rails, and even then it would be fairly limited

 

[DCikes88]

I personally would not use this wiring...

I'm starting to get why you're saying that. I'm not sure which pickup I'll use just yet, but it will for sure be something from the factory or as close to it, no hybrids or home-mades, don't have the means or knowledge to play around with that.

So single bridge humbucker (full or tele-bridge sized), 1 vol 1 tone.
What would you suggest? 3way - series, parallel, split?

 

[Artie]

Artie, apologies for necroing this. Have you ever tried this in the end, how did it sound?

I'm too old to remember this, and I may have been drunk when I said it.

Gimme a sec.

 

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