30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

Wormhelmet

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Hello. First post here. I have been putting a George Lynch Screamin Demon in bridge position on various guitars since the 80's and this year decided to buy a new axe as my current Ibanez Artist is about 16 years old. The Ibanez has a good neck, GL Screamin Demon bridge and Ibanez stock neck, Schaller locking tuners, good setup by my local luthier. It survived a house fire in 2000 and used to be bright red, but now dark red with some smoke damage on headstock edges and back of the neck where natural wood showed. Bit of a sentimental thing that plays really well and sounds great with mild output great tone of the demon. Stock neck is very clear and round sound with flat eq response.

This year I decided to get a new guitar and tried out some EMG actives. I liked them a lot. Mostly play metal, heavy rock, some punk, and a bit of acoustic fingerpicking type stuff. I ended up buying a Epiphone Prophesy Les Paul with EMG 81/85 set, then decided I would step away from usual stop bar tailpiece and get my first guitar with a floyd rose tremolo. I know, brave stuff here, right? I bought a Jackson soloist with floyd rose and it had EMG passive pickups I didn't care for so I decided I wanted to try Duncan Blackouts actives in the Jackson. I went with Blackout Metal in bridge with boost on a push-pull on my tone knob (boost is pulled out, in is normal) and regular blackout AHB-1 in neck.

I know from a little reading that a lot of people don't like actives, but I really like them after having very similar tones in various guitars since the 80's with my go to pickup the Screamin Demon. I think I went nuts over the high output and not having to run pre-eq gain boost or anything before dirt box to get a hot sound out of the screamin demon. Anyway, i really like the Duncan Blackouts. Neck is where I usually play clean and it sounds very clean. Mix of neck and bridge needs a little volume roll back to sound clean, and just bridge for high gain is really nice to my ears. I like the big mid punch it has. Boost on is ok too, but only occasionally use it. The normal mode has very high output already.

I have found I can keep the gain down a good deal on my amp or preamps and still get incredible crunchy gain that sings. I like to keep gain knobs around 12:00 position on amp or preamp now and run OCD with gain on about 2 and volume about 3. It doesn't need the OCD as I could just turn gain up to 2:00 position for same amount, but I like the extra bite from OCD as it colors sound like a TS a little bit.

So, I just wanted to post how much I like the actives. In both guitars. EMG set very good too, but I think I like the low end and mids punch of the blackouts for my styles better. They have a good thump in low end when I chug chords and they still stay very articulate in low end. Great with some downtuned stuff too.

Anybody else like theirs too? Didn't see too many posts on the actives here. My luthier did the passive to active conversion for me and put in push-pull boost on tone knob too. He setup both new guitars as well as my old guitar about 6 years before the new ones. Great work and great setups. They all play incredibly good and all have shredder necks.
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

Welcome to the forum. I never had active pickups in any of my guitars until about a year ago. I am absolutely in love with the AHB-1 Blackouts. I love their clarity. I'm glad to hear you like them as well.
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

I'm just surprised that you put up with the Screamin' Demon for 30 years. :D
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

Nah, the Demon is fine. :D
It has something unique and that's cool.
Doesn't try to sound like the typical mid-congested 80s butt rock tone, despite being from that era.
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

I'm just surprised that you put up with the Screamin' Demon for 30 years. :D


Hahaha

:D

Playing Metal with it a bit like putting a square peg in a round hole. Don't know why I waited so long, but found some very good boost pedals and EQ's. It sounds ok with an Exotic RC boost in front. That Ibanez has had sets of light top heavy bottoms since I bought it and always ran a .52 low E. It handles drop tune good. Might have to try some different passives now in it! Had my eye on Nazgul bridge too.
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

I should mention my very first screamin demon bought when I was 16. 31 years ago and had a Hondo strat at the time. I broke the pickguard, chiseled out the space with a flathead screwdriver and nailed in the screamin demon using superglue to glue the leads to the pots. It worked.

About 5 years later I bondo'd the pickup in place and ripped out all but a small triangle of pickguard with volume on it. About 2 years after that I was trying to hurry through a neck refinish and getting old finish off the neck. I was impatient and used a snap on tools high speed pnuematic buffing wheel. It ate into the wood on the 11th fret, so I continued and scalloped the fretboard from 11th through 20th. By then I had an Aria Pro II with screamin demon. I had bought a real Gibson Les Paul Deluxe that I left the mini PAF's in back in 1989. I'm sure if the Gibson had standard sized pups, I probably would have put a screamin demon in it too. The mini's actually sounded pretty good. Ran into money troubles though and the Gibson had to go. The Hondo stayed. Aria Pro II came later. Also bought used. I couldn't sell that Hondo ever. It was an ugly guitar that played great and the demon sounded good in it.

The Hondo eventually was given away to a young broke guitar player when I was moving and the Aria as sold for $75 after years of use. I bought the Ibanez after moving and getting a new job.

My two guitars I just bought will remain as is with the actives in them. Epiphone Les Paul 100% the way I received it with hardware and the Jackson has the Blackouts upgrade. Didn't like those EMG HZ's too much even though they werent terrible and higher output than the demon. Much better now though. Never been too picky on the guitars as long as they worked and neck felt good. Always a couple upgrades in tuners and the pickup except that Gibson. I'm smart enough now to take it to someone else to work on. My days of guitar mods are over with. Just want to play em, not work on them. That Gibson was bought used in 88 and cost me $575. Boy have prices sure jumped up on real Gibsons.

My son now plays. He's 13 and has a squier mini and a Jackson Dinky full size. He hasn't been playing long enough to want to change out pups in anything. Jackson humbuckers in the dinky actually are decent. At least he will get a good idea of high output and mild output with the current household guitar lineup. He doesn't play high gain stuff. Go figure. He does like Rush and Led Zeppelin though. Two of my favorites for heavy rock. Trying to introduce some Sabbath to him too and older Scorpions from 70's era. No expectations though. He can play what he likes. He mostly stays on clean channel now and has VK II Micro head also with single 112 cab. He switches to early rock type gain to try and figure out early Rush songs.
I think my days of buying Screamin Demons are definitely over. Well, unless I drop one in the neck position which I hear sounds pretty good.....
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

How did you have a Screamin' Demon 30 years ago when it was added to the product line in 1991 (24 years ago)? :D

For what I play, the Demon is pretty much perfect. I'm running a pair in my number 1. It's an incredible neck pickup too. Never been a fan of actives myself. I've tried them but just felt disconnected from the instrument with them.
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

I dig EMG81s its that sound.... for better or worse its that sound. Most of the guys that hate actives try to make them into something they arent instead of appreciating them for where they are good or they try to use them with the exact same amp settings they used for their passives and it just doesnt work. 81's are great when you just let it be an 81. Nothing out there has that same sound.
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

Try the 60 in the neck position!

I much prefer the 60 or 81 in the neck position over the 85, but the 60 is by far the most versatile of the bunch, IMO.

The 81TW and 89 are fantastic pickups too.
 
Re: 30 years of Screamin Demon and finally decided to try actives

How did you have a Screamin' Demon 30 years ago when it was added to the product line in 1991 (24 years ago)? :D

For what I play, the Demon is pretty much perfect. I'm running a pair in my number 1. It's an incredible neck pickup too. Never been a fan of actives myself. I've tried them but just felt disconnected from the instrument with them.

You are right! Maybe it was the Alnico Pro II that started it with it nailed in my hondo strat! I just remember buying a Seymour Duncan at 16 with my hard earned dishwasher money and nailing and supergluing. I definitely switched to screamin demon when they came out.

I feel very much connected to my guitar with actives. The high output picks up everything with ease.
 
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