A cross between a Les Paul and a Strat?

Tor

Riffologist Extraordinaire
Reading the title, and you're thinking "yeah, right". Yeah. But seriously. Today I've been thinking about a new guitar. Not looking to (necessarily) get full on Les Paul sounds, not looking to get 100% Strat sounds, but a bit of both camps. Sorta.

I want something with a pickup config that allows it to sound really good clean (ish..), and be really mean with the overdrives. I want something with a trem that works. I don't care about the scale of the neck. I don't care if it's solid or hollow or semi. In terms of aesthetics (yeah, it does matter...), I'm more about the less polished finish and crazy quilt maple tops, the better. It seems that too many of the builders are all about going fancy pants about gaudy finishes. I just want something that plays great, have some meat to the sound, and look like a real work horse that can be beaten to death and still stand up.

I've been looking at Gretsch, but they're fairly expensive... And a bit boring perhaps? Kinda like a Cadillac or something. Not raw enough. I've been looking at Duesenbergs, and while they look too nice, I do like them.. They bring something new to the table. And their trems are really spoken highly of. But expensive.

Are there some lesser known brands that still got great quality to speak of? I've been surfing the net all night, and it kinda strikes me that my dream must be custom built, and that's a route I'm not ready for now.
 
Re: A cross between a Les Paul and a Strat?

Le Strat?

I think you should visit Warmoth's website and get something custom built.
 
Re: A cross between a Les Paul and a Strat?

PRS was designed to be a cross between a Les Paul and Strat...Problem is, then people complain it doesnt sound enough like a Les Paul or enough like a Strat, so you cant please everybody
 
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Hardtail Strat or tremolo block? The block makes a huge difference.

A mahogany Tele can do it, or a PRS, but once the trem block comes into play things get difficult.
 
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I was going to say PRS... that was kind of the whole concept around them in the first place.
 
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A I'd think a Mahogany Strat would get you close. Put a humbucker in the bridge and two single coils in the neck and middle, and you're halfway there.
 
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I was going to say PRS... that was kind of the whole concept around them in the first place.

I remember the same concept was used, and advertised, for the Ovation Breadwinners in their day. But as so often happens, trying to straddle the gap between a Strat and LP usually ended up with an instrument that fell into no-man's land.
 
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A I'd think a Mahogany Strat would get you close. Put a humbucker in the bridge and two single coils in the neck and middle, and you're halfway there.

Like this?

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Dirtbagg owns one of these. It still sounds like a Strat but it's a very dark, smooth sounding Strat. Great guitar!
 
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FWIW, my McCarty (hardtail) and my LP studio were about the closest to each other sounding guitars I ever owned.
 
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G&L Tribute Ascari GTS or Fiorano GTS. Basically a Strat-shaped Les Paul with coil splitting. They're basically the same guitar, but the Ascari is Gibson scale while the Fiorano is Fender scale (and has pointier horns). They are imports, but some of the best imports out there. And they're under 500 bucks.

Ascari:

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https://www.glguitars.com/instruments/TributeSeries/guitars/Ascari/index.asp

Fiorano:

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https://www.glguitars.com/instruments/TributeSeries/guitars/Fiorano/index.asp
 
Re: A cross between a Les Paul and a Strat?

Yeah there are all kinds of "hybrids" out there...but the reality is that one guitar can't do it all...though many players have great success with jst a tele, strat, LP or 335.

Sounds to me like you need to do what I did. I use a G&L Legacy for my Strat tones. For my 2HB tones I'll use a 335 or aLes Paul, preferably a Historic.

But when I gig, I always take a backup guitar. The one guitar that I've found that can backup both guitars is a Legacy Special. These have Gotoh Dual Blade pickups and combined with G&L's PTB tone controls, I can get thick PAF -ish tones and something close to vintage alnico single coil tones. All with a great vibrato system and the strat style ergonomics that I prefer.

I think in this day and age, a player needs more than one guitar...and more than one amp to cover all the bases.

The one guitar that can do it all is a myth...about as real as a unicorn...with or without glitter.

Bill
 
Re: A cross between a Les Paul and a Strat?

I have a Brian Moore with a Strat scale, but it has 2 HBs, a chambered mahogany body with a maple top. Maple/Rosewood neck. The HBs can be split. It has about 85% of a Strat sound, and about 85% of an LP.

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I want something with a pickup config that allows it to sound really good clean (ish..), and be really mean with the overdrives. I want something with a trem that works. I don't care about the scale of the neck. I don't care if it's solid or hollow or semi. I just want something that plays great, have some meat to the sound

Sounds like you really don't know what you want at the moment cos you are speaking in very general terms. You might as well just say "im looking for a good guitar". There are differences in the feel and sound of scale lengths, wood types and guitar construction - big ones. I think you should go out a play a boatload of axes and see what sounds and feels best to you personally. It will be a good journey of exploration.
 
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Re: A cross between a Les Paul and a Strat?

How has Music Man not been mentioned? I played a Reflex once and along with the spectacular quality that comes with every EBMM I've played came a wonderful hybrid of Gibson and Fender.
 
Re: A cross between a Les Paul and a Strat?

Well no matter what you do you wont be able to nail the tones. A strat is a strat and Les Paul a Les Paul. However you can get in the Ballpark. I vote for a Mahogany body with a strat scale length with either a HH or a HSS profile as stated in the above few posts. From there you need to split the Humbuckers. I have very fine results in my SA120 with the JB JAZZ combo with coil splits. If I am not wrong I believe that the PATB was made to make a strat sound like a Les Paul.
 
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Re: A cross between a Les Paul and a Strat?

Some players say (Gibson/Epi) Nighthawk. Usually come with fixed bridge though (Gibson has a model with FR trem). If you don't mind some work, you can put a strat trem on Epi Nighthawk.

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