I gotcha... So this is about me. So despite your earlier comment that it wasnt just me but others in the thread it really was about me.
Well sorry dude maybe its my personality... maybe its the way I type. Maybe its the industry I work in, who knows... Be that as it may I prefer the direct approach. Some find it abrasive. Some find it rough. Take it for what you will.
But you are more than welcome if you find something ive said unpalatable to PM me and we can try to resolve the matter. Doesnt mean I wont tell you to pound sand but we can try.
Apparently you do since you took the time to write it.
Anyways I feel enough stink has been made in nathans how to relic thread so I will gracefully bow out so the learning can continue.