Are Electric Guitars Dying A Slow Death?

[Little Pigbacon]

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In case you haven't noticed, "pop" music became synonymous with hip hop about 20 or so years ago. It's certainly nothing like what it was from the 50's through the 70's. The 80's were when the change started to occur with the British synth pop.

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Don't forget the other half of pop music, which is basically EDM with junior-high level lyrics, overproduced to the point where most of the singers sound the same -- pitch-perfect, layered, and processed, without a hint of a humanizing imperfection, quirk, or personality.

 

[Demanic]

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Don't forget the other half of pop music, which is basically EDM with junior-high level lyrics, overproduced to the point where most of the singers sound the same -- pitch-perfect, layered, and processed, without a hint of a humanizing imperfection, quirk, or personality.

Isn't that what hip hop is?

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[RandomToneGuy]

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Auto-correct or Freudian slip?

I was actually thinking about how that's a concept in half the pop I hear on the radio, but I'm surest was autocorrect. The have the same synthesized tone for the same 4 or 5 songs, I get it appears in heavier, musicto, but at least it's as more than marketing. Instill prefer to hear raw emotion and life experience, I don't know, just meaningful thought out lyrics. But yes, I was thinking that s*x is pointlessly mentioned in pop songs that I here everywhere and I wonder if it's a marketing ploy or why it's there. In my opinion I just don't like the "kiss and tell" for lack of better term, or over eager for it kind of lyrics. I prefer something that sounds more real a musically feels more applicable.

But yeah idiot like, "kiss and tell" in regards s*x. In my personal opinion that's not something I want to hear it's a private thing, let who ever is on that relationship deal with it in my bias, but when let's say a heavy band wasn't selling by a cute or s*x* factor, but mentioned it ounce, I would avoid that obeying, but from. What I've seensofter music, especially synthesized pop music, uses it fir marketing, items meaningless the ore and more it's the song, I tend to only like independent pop, buries not my favorite.

In short, I want to hear abouts something else.

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[Little Pigbacon]

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Isn't that what hip hop is?

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No. Go listen to any of your twenty-something white pop tarts. They might have a rapper do a guest spot on a track here and there, but they're mostly pure pop.

 

[RandomToneGuy]

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Don't forget the other half of pop music, which is basically EDM with junior-high level lyrics, overproduced to the point where most of the singers sound the same -- pitch-perfect, layered, and processed, without a hint of a humanizing imperfection, quirk, or personality.

Exactly what I don't like about it, if it had a humanizing TouchPad would be different

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[Demanic]

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Sorry, all I hear are variations on a theme. Of course, I'm not talking about the lyrics. Though I still say that one is virtually indistinguishable from another.

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[Demanic]

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I suppose that the closest analogy would be the difference between Doom and Thrash. One is slower than the other.

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[Sirion]

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I am not much of a fan of hip hop, but I should point out that this sounds very much like the conversations your parents' generations and music critics were having about heavy metal in the 80s.

Heavy metal: pimply, prole, putrid, unchic, unsophisticated, anti-intellectual (but impossibly pretentious), dismal, abyssal, terrible, horrible, and stupid music, barely music at all… music made by slack-jawed, alpaca-haired, bulbous-inseamed imbeciles in jackboots and leather and chrome for slack-jawed, alpaca-haired, downy-mustachioed imbeciles in cheap, too-large T-shirts with pictures of comic-book Armageddon ironed on the front. … Heavy metal, mon amour, where do I start? –Robert Duncan

 

[RandomToneGuy]

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I tend to prefer music as both an art and science compared to, factory abd marketing ploys. I rarely ever listen to pop, but when I do its a small time artist that's a friend if a friend, but even then the lyrics have to have meaning, so there are in rare cases exceptions. But yeah, I think all music can be stereo typed, just wish the stereo typical stuff would be played everything I get a hair cut or try to eat out.

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[Demanic]

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I am not much of a fan of hip hop, but I should point out that this sounds very much like the conversations your parents' generations and music critics were having about heavy metal in the 80s.

Maybe. Though even my parents could recognize the classical roots once I could get them to listen past the distortion.
Hip Hop, and the pop spawned by it was a musical regression. And each iteration seems more infantile than the one preceding it.
Not to say I'm a huge fan of metal played so fast that it sounds like an old dial up modem, if anyone remembers what those were.

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[Little Pigbacon]

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I used to feel the same way, until I finally heard some rap that I liked. Maybe you never will. Each of our musical journeys is different.

 

[KingBee01]

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Not sure that guitars are dying. I wonder how may guitars are produced today world wide and how many exist vs population.

Not as many as cars or mobile phones but I more than typewriters.

However you cannot go on worshipful the music equipment of the past forever.

Selling replica and relic and tribute and authentic versions will not bring any future to the guitar.

Imagine if that happened with the way cars were made and marketed.

There will another revolution in technology that changes things again but perhaps we are not there yet


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[Demanic]

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I used to feel the same way, until I finally heard some rap that I liked. Maybe you never will. Each of our musical journeys is different.

I remember NWA and Ice T, Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC. Some of the stuff I liked at the time. But like I said, it just continued to devolve. Like modern art. I liked Dali. Pollock, not so much.
I still think you Ice T's best work was with Body Count.

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[Swampy]

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Sure, new guitar sales are down when there's Reverb, eBay and Craigslist. Hell, Craigslist was a big factor in the decline of newspaper. They were no longer getting those astronomically high rates from people running ads.

 

[Lewguitar]

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Sure, new guitar sales are down when there's Reverb, eBay and Craigslist. Hell, Craigslist was a big factor in the decline of newspaper. They were no longer getting those astronomically high rates from people running ads.

I never buy new guitars. There's millions of great used guitars for half the price! That might be why new guitar sales are down.

 

[Sirion]

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I think that is part of it, but to assume it is everything seems like wishful thinking to me. But how many new, guitar driven acts are found in the top mainstream acts these days? A couple of years back I looked at the Norwegian hit charts and found ONE guitar-driven act, and that was Maroon 5. If that wasn't a fluke miss, then one must naturally expect the interest in the instrument to decline amongst the young, even if it is indisputable that they have a lot more music at their fingertips than we ever did (well, I caught the Napster era during junior high, but my elementary school years were pretty dismal musically).

That being said, I don't think that it is necessarily a bad thing if there is a smaller turnaround of beginner instruments. These days something like a Kramer Focus doesn't have to cost much more than a beginner guitar, whilst still being a very fine instrument. The market for high-end guitars will probably always be there; the market for custom made gambas still is!

 

[Demanic]

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Well. There is always the underground.

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[Sirion]

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It is, but the guitar's status as icon I think it is fair has been shaped by its acceptance in the mainstream.

In the same way, the concertina has never really disappeared; it has only dwindled to the point where it is primarily the domain of enthusiasts playing a repertoire that is either historic or is based on such a repertoire. I would be surprised if that won't happen to the guitar within a few decades; we seem to be well under way there.

 

[Demanic]

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Yeah.
I'll meet you there. Playing a rig that will liquefy your intestines. That I bought off a Millennial. Whose parents bought it for them. Because someone told them ( rightly) that it was a good rig.

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[Sirion]

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Deal.